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old_man_grom
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13 Apr 2021, 2:40 pm

Maybe try a different/related field?

I had an incredibly difficult time getting a job as a web developer. I graduated college in 2002 and didn't get to use my degree until 2012. I didn't fit the culture or they found someone else who was more qualified. I got my foot in the door of the Web Development industry as Quality Assurance(software testing), and now I find that I enjoy QA much more than development. My degree still helps with what I do now, even though I thought I wanted to be something else in the beginning. I still have the option to get back into development at my current company, but I'm afraid I'm out of practice.

If you decide to try the QA route, I've heard good things about ultranauts.co as they hire almost exclusively on the spectrum.



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13 Apr 2021, 3:35 pm

old_man_grom wrote:
Maybe try a different/related field?

I had an incredibly difficult time getting a job as a web developer. I graduated college in 2002 and didn't get to use my degree until 2012. I didn't fit the culture or they found someone else who was more qualified. I got my foot in the door of the Web Development industry as Quality Assurance(software testing), and now I find that I enjoy QA much more than development. My degree still helps with what I do now, even though I thought I wanted to be something else in the beginning. I still have the option to get back into development at my current company, but I'm afraid I'm out of practice.

If you decide to try the QA route, I've heard good things about ultranauts.co as they hire almost exclusively on the spectrum.


What is your degree in?


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13 Apr 2021, 8:13 pm

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I am able to work with little to no accommodations, but people assume I am a potential financial burden.

I thought mentioning I had a disability would protect me *from* discrimination, but instead, I opened Pandora’s box.

And Texas is an at-will state.


I think contacting your department of labor and speaking to someone in the disability department. Also, I think getting a petition signed against the At-Will law and contacting your state legislatures. Disability rights are civil rights

Changing the At-Will law is not possible in Texas.



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13 Apr 2021, 8:23 pm

Texasmoneyman300 wrote:
Summer_Twilight wrote:
Tim_Tex wrote:
I am able to work with little to no accommodations, but people assume I am a potential financial burden.

I thought mentioning I had a disability would protect me *from* discrimination, but instead, I opened Pandora’s box.

And Texas is an at-will state.


I think contacting your department of labor and speaking to someone in the disability department. Also, I think getting a petition signed against the At-Will law and contacting your state legislatures. Disability rights are civil rights

Changing the At-Will law is not possible in Texas.


Not yet, but activism on that issue might make it possible in the future.


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14 Apr 2021, 4:30 pm

It's good activism and I am willing to start a string of petitions being that 90% of the autism population is un or under employed.



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15 Apr 2021, 2:32 pm

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What is your degree in?


AA in Graphic Design and Multimedia

But I'm autodidactic, so I had taught myself several programming languages and audited courses at school to avoid having to pay for them



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28 Apr 2021, 2:02 pm

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As many of us on here probably know, we often struggle with finding work, and the unemployment rate is very high for people on the spectrum. Discrimination against us is widespread.

However, the Americans with Disabilities Act (or equivalent in other countries) explicitly bans discrimination against us. But it still continues, because employers don't want to pay for accommodations or deal with legal risks. Those of us over 40, such as myself, have to deal with double discrimination (ableism + ageism).

How can we prove if we've been discriminated against, or if we simply "didn't get the job" or "weren't a good fit"?

This is my situation: I have about 5 years of experience in GIS (geographic information systems), and a BS in geography/urban planning. I graduated in 2009, but was only able to procure two contract jobs, only to be let go after 2 weeks in both cases. The last job was in 2013.

Meanwhile, I have been studying new programming languages and database technology, trying to enter more mainstream data technology fields. I took a couple of bootcamps from Udemy, one for data science and one for Tableau (a data visualization software).

Other technologies I have studied: Python, Java, Oracle SQL, and I am trying to teach myself MongoDB (a "NoSQL" database). Java was in a classroom setting, but Python and Oracle SQL were self-taught. Is it possible that the non-traditional path I have taken in learning new technologies is hindering my job search?


I sent you a PM. My job is hiring for a GIS analyst



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02 May 2021, 8:19 pm

old_man_grom wrote:
Tim_Tex wrote:
As many of us on here probably know, we often struggle with finding work, and the unemployment rate is very high for people on the spectrum. Discrimination against us is widespread.

However, the Americans with Disabilities Act (or equivalent in other countries) explicitly bans discrimination against us. But it still continues, because employers don't want to pay for accommodations or deal with legal risks. Those of us over 40, such as myself, have to deal with double discrimination (ableism + ageism).

How can we prove if we've been discriminated against, or if we simply "didn't get the job" or "weren't a good fit"?

This is my situation: I have about 5 years of experience in GIS (geographic information systems), and a BS in geography/urban planning. I graduated in 2009, but was only able to procure two contract jobs, only to be let go after 2 weeks in both cases. The last job was in 2013.

Meanwhile, I have been studying new programming languages and database technology, trying to enter more mainstream data technology fields. I took a couple of bootcamps from Udemy, one for data science and one for Tableau (a data visualization software).

Other technologies I have studied: Python, Java, Oracle SQL, and I am trying to teach myself MongoDB (a "NoSQL" database). Java was in a classroom setting, but Python and Oracle SQL were self-taught. Is it possible that the non-traditional path I have taken in learning new technologies is hindering my job search?


I sent you a PM. My job is hiring for a GIS analyst


I applied to it earlier today.


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06 May 2021, 4:35 pm

Instead of focussing on past discrimination, why not consider not disclosing your disability, if you don't need accommodations?

That way, you can trick employers into thinking you are semi-normal, at least, with a bit of effort.



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07 May 2021, 6:25 pm

At this point, it doesn’t matter if I’m being discriminated against. I can’t compete with other applicants. I guess I can forget about living in Seattle.


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15 May 2021, 12:45 pm

Tim_Tex wrote:
I can’t compete with other applicants.

How do you know so sure you can't compete with other applicants?
Just give me a list of things you are worse at from the moment you walk through the door.
My point is, you can never know what the others are like, or if there are currently others at all!

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I guess I can forget about living in Seattle.

That's another smashing statement as well. You almost provoke me to prove you wrong. It's just that I don't know a thing about Seattle. :lol:

Do you have relatives in or around Seattle that are a vital part of your life, for whom it is important you live at close distance? Do you own a car and are you comfortable driving a while to work?

Like another one said, I wouldn't mention the autism from the start. Just figure out how you fit in. If things go wrong, drop the ball on coaching during the first weeks. This can be seen as adapting to the job at higher speed.

Once you'll get to know people from your department, I'm sure you'll notice some people who would qualify as autists. They're just still there. And it is not for you to figure out how they stuck around, but to get comfortable with the idea: this company appreciates people like me. This might sound easier than it is, I assume...

Myself I work in IT as webdeveloper.



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25 Jul 2021, 4:18 am

Tim,

If you wish to stay in computing/ICT, then you may want to take some associated certification examinations. Start with Certiport's Internet and Computing Core Certification (IC3). (Anyone reading this who does not live in North America may want to start with the Europe Computer Driving License (ECDL) instead.) Next, take COMP-TIA's IT Fundamentals and then COMP-TIA's A+ exams. (Or, if you think you are up for it, just do the A+ exam.) Where you go after that, depends upon which area of tech you want to specialise in.

There are, however, two important caveats. First, although obtaining certifications may help a bit in your job search, I doubt they will help a lot (because experience always trumps certification). Second, age discrimination may be against the law in many countries, but I am afraid that it is also a fact of life, and the IT industry is notorious for being "ageist". (In other words, given your age an lack of work experience, you will likely be fighting an uphill battle in order to get a job in the field, even with those certifications.)

As some of the other responses have already noted, there are charitable organisations which assist people with disabilities and they may be able to provide some assistance in finding a job. This includes a few which are focused on computing/ICT (such as Auticon http://auticon.com/ , Daivergent https://daivergent.com/ , Passwerk http://www.passwerk.be/ , and Specialisterne http://specialisternefoundation.com/ ). Also, I gather that some of the major technology firms (such as Microsoft and SAP) have set up "neuro-diversity" programs which look to hire people with conditions such as autism.

If you are willing to go in a different direction, and you are okay with working in (potentially) noisy and/or brightly lit environments, then please consider a career in modern manufacturing. Advanced manufacturing requires a good foundation in mathematics and computing (which it sounds like you already have). You will likely need to take some specialist courses from your local community college (for example, to learn how to operate CNC machines), but I have read that the industry is much more open to hiring older workers.

Here are a couple of (old) articles about modern manufacturing:
"As Manufacturing Demand Grows, So Do Jobs"
https://www.npr.org/2011/03/05/13426857 ... so-do-jobs
"For Manufacturing Jobs, Workers Brush Up On Math"
https://www.npr.org/2012/07/10/15583796 ... up-on-math

Best of luck with whatever you do.



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25 Jul 2021, 9:59 pm

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Tim_Tex wrote:
I can’t compete with other applicants.

How do you know so sure you can't compete with other applicants?
Just give me a list of things you are worse at from the moment you walk through the door.
My point is, you can never know what the others are like, or if there are currently others at all!

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I guess I can forget about living in Seattle.

That's another smashing statement as well. You almost provoke me to prove you wrong. It's just that I don't know a thing about Seattle. :lol:

Do you have relatives in or around Seattle that are a vital part of your life, for whom it is important you live at close distance? Do you own a car and are you comfortable driving a while to work?

Like another one said, I wouldn't mention the autism from the start. Just figure out how you fit in. If things go wrong, drop the ball on coaching during the first weeks. This can be seen as adapting to the job at higher speed.

Once you'll get to know people from your department, I'm sure you'll notice some people who would qualify as autists. They're just still there. And it is not for you to figure out how they stuck around, but to get comfortable with the idea: this company appreciates people like me. This might sound easier than it is, I assume...

Myself I work in IT as webdeveloper.


I am trying to relocate to Seattle to get away from the MAGA people, climate change deniers and religious extremists that dominate Texas. Also, for better cultural opportunities that don't exist in Houston.

The problem: Seattle has a very high cost of living. The average home sells for $800,000 there, vs. $250,000 in Houston. Home prices in Seattle rose 40% in one year, while incomes nationwide rose only 3%.


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