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Girlwithaspergers
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16 Apr 2015, 11:35 am

I checked my email this morning and I didn't get the job with target and/or Starbucks. I'm devastated because I really hate living with my parents.



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16 Apr 2015, 11:37 am

I'm sorry to hear that. Hugs. Retail employers are usually the worst and the most abusive.



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16 Apr 2015, 11:37 am

I know. I feel like having a huge meltdown.



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16 Apr 2015, 4:57 pm

I'm sorry for your disappointment.

I would try to use my meltdown feelings as a catharsis. Just cry it out for while, then do something your enjoy.

Then wake up tomorrow morning and keep on trying!



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16 Apr 2015, 5:09 pm

Its just a bump in the road, all is not lost. Keep looking, eventually you may find something that's an even better fit for you. Maybe something in a nice, quiet office that only requires answering phones and filing papers. :D


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16 Apr 2015, 5:15 pm

I know. It just kind of pressures me into thinking I need school and that was a nightmare.



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16 Apr 2015, 5:31 pm

School as in university, is greatly over-rated for employment. Trade skills are where it's at, college for like, a year or 2 might not be as bad? And most of those jobs require no social skills but still need a brain. Not recommended for clumsy people though :-S


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16 Apr 2015, 6:37 pm

I am sorry to hear this, I do hope you can get a job soon.



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16 Apr 2015, 6:49 pm

School is more useful than you think. Many employers seeking employees desire at least some college education from them.



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17 Apr 2015, 4:49 am

A short (and woefully insufficient) breakdown of jobs by education level (in the US):

PhD, MD, LLM, terminal degrees
Research/ivory tower white collar jobs. Depending on area of discipline and school pedigree, these jobs range from difficult to impossible to get. Social skills at a functional/good level are required. $100,000+ starting pay. Raises are slow.

MBA, JD, some graduate/professional degrees
Business management and professional services white collar jobs. Typical candidates are intelligent, balanced people who are well put together. Unemployment for people in this category is nearly 0%, except for JDs. However, since these are usually very competitive people, they are usually unsatisfied at anything less than Fortune 500 companies, Big 4 accounting firms, Big 3 consulting firms, or bulge bracket banks, etc, and these are more difficult to get. Excellent social skills are required. $70,000+ starting pay ($50,000 for accountants). Raises are fast, but job security is low.

Other graduate degrees
Industry white collar jobs. These are usually highly skilled technicians and specialists. Employability depends on degree. A graduate degree in history will probably not lead to a job, whereas a graduate degree in technical writing easily could. These jobs are not as competitive or hard to get as the above category, but unemployment happens (2-4% range). I know many people in this category, and they tell me that the job market is not kind right now. Functional/good social skills are required. $45,000+ starting salary. Raises are steady (4% annual would be normal), job security is good.

Bachelors degrees
Industry white collar or high end blue collar jobs. The B2C service sector employs the majority of people in this category. This is the average salaried employee, and the job market most people are familiar with. This degree is a minimum requirement to convey to a stranger (hiring manager) your interest in, and basic competency in a complex subject area. Social skills depend on the job, with STEM majors requiring few social skills and salespeople requiring excellent social skills. $35,000+ starting salary (or higher for STEM majors, which is true for the above category as well). You may or may not get raises. It may or may not be a dead-end job. Job security depends on industry.

Associates degrees, trade schools, etc
The foot soldiers of industry and trade. These are blue collar jobs. A few examples in this category are electricians, plumbers, data entry, mechanics, bookkeepers, etc. Pay is hourly and benefits are scarce. Job security depends on business cycles, industry performance, client risk, etc. Having a manager you don't get along with could mean you get written up or fired for arbitrary reasons (you have no bargaining power with the company). Often the best outcome for people in this category is to start a successful small business or become a highly sought after private contractor, although most people in this category live paycheck to paycheck and can't afford to hang a shingle. More importantly, success depends extensively on social skills. $12+ per hour starting, although getting full time hours isn't guaranteed.

High school
Clerks, cashiers, line cooks, etc. These are low end blue collar jobs, or some brown collar jobs (what few remain). Job security only lasts as long as the job isn't automated. These are the first people to be cut in down times or when a process is made more efficient. Unemployment and turnover are high. Dead end jobs are the norm. Starting pay is usually minimum wage and benefits are rare. Workers in this category may be exposed to violent crime or unscrupulous managers/coworkers. Until recently, enlisting in the military was one of the best jobs available to this category, although that's becoming more difficult as troop levels are being dialed back.

Below high school
Unemployment is the norm. In this category, your best chance of not going homeless is to rely on charity or government assistance.

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Exceptions exist in every category. This is not meant to offend anyone or single anyone out. These are anecdotes about job markets at varying levels of educational attainment only.



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17 Apr 2015, 7:58 am

I only had a high school diploma when I got the job I got now: Data Entry Specialist.

Believe it not, it's still the only requirement.

It's a civil service job with excellent job security and benefits. The test for it is not too difficult. I'm going to get a pretty decent pension when I retire in 7.75 years.

Those sorts of jobs are still out there--but probably rarer than previously. But look thoroughly at things like Indeed.com. They are out there.



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17 Apr 2015, 8:06 am

Personally I think you dodged a bullet. Those are hard jobs and I've heard bad things about both employers.

When you say you didn't enjoy school are you referring to high school? Because post secondary education is very different. There is room for more independence. At your age I would seriously consider what field may interest you and then get the education for it. The available jobs will be easier and higher paying.



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17 Apr 2015, 8:17 am

I refuse to go back to college unless it's a 4 year bc I really want to stay in a dorm.



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17 Apr 2015, 8:24 am

Girlwithaspergers wrote:
I'm devastated because I really hate living with my parents.


Girlwithaspergers wrote:
I refuse to go back to college unless it's a 4 year bc I really want to stay in a dorm.


So the goal is to change your living arrangements, not a job or school. Have you considered going in on a place with a roommate? Or are you eligible for housing? Why do you want to stay in a dorm?



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17 Apr 2015, 9:37 am

That sucks. Keep trying though! I once hired a girl who had kept applying for over a year with the company I was at. I finally gave her a chance and she ended up running the department after I left!

Why not look into school? Most offer housing and even help with finding a job.

Here's a breakdown of the aspies/auties I know and their education levels/jobs:
Person with home-schooled education and nothing else: Occasional blue collar jobs, still lives at home
Two people with 2-year technical degrees: Mid-level white collar jobs, paid enough to be home-owners, support families
Two people with some 4-year college experience: One is in a blue collar part time job (by choice) and the other makes over 100K a year.
Handful of people with PhDs: Professors and researchers, all making very high salaries

I have other spectrum acquaintances with 2-4 year educations and to my knowledge they're all independent and employed.



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17 Apr 2015, 1:01 pm

Well, I don't know what I'm going to do tbh.