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Tim_Tex
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12 Jul 2019, 2:46 pm

For those who don’t know, this is software that HR people use to screen candidates looking for work.

They’re used to save money, but the algorithms used only approve candidates who have certain buzzwords in their resumes or applications. It completely writes off the idea of transferable skills and a willingness to learn software or other skills.

ATS’s search for the perfect candidate, when no such person exists. I have been eliminated from the running for many jobs likely because of ATS’s.

Has anyone else had experience with these? Is there any way to outsmart the software so you can get your foot in the door?


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12 Jul 2019, 9:59 pm

I've heard that there are buzz words you should put in your resume for the specific position that you're seeking. I'm not too clear on how to do this, but I think reading through the job description and using adjectives that are similar to the main things they're looking for is sufficient... but it's also not very easy to get an interview in a lot of fields, even if you are highly qualified.


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15 Jul 2019, 12:57 pm

The only 2 job interviews I got in the past 7 years were from literally copying word for word from the job posting. It's so frustrating that most of them are written by people who have NO clue what they are looking for and couldn't recognize talent if it bit them in the face. With my last job interview for a VERY well paying job, the first stage was testing with 7 other people: all I can think is "THIS is the best they can come up with?" and "they actually hired one of these people instead of me??" Some of them didn't even know how to do basic commands in Excel and couple were not only dressed like they crawled out of a sewer but were mean and surly to the HR people.

This is the main reason why I am looking at entrepreneurship: I am likely far more qualified than anybody who applied for a few recent jobs in my field (I basically have the gold standard of certification and only a handful of people have it) and couldn't even get a single interview out of it! When are HR people going to wake up and realize these systems and the corresponding "behavioral interviews" don't work and heavily favor the George Constanzas of the world?



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31 Jul 2019, 2:50 pm

Here is a list of my education and skills:

BS in Geography/Urban Planning, minor in Geology
AAS in Geographic Information Systems

Software (job and/or classroom experience):

Microsoft Office
Java
C++
ArcGIS
Global Positioning System
MS Access
AutoCAD

Software (Self-taught):

Python
Oracle 12c

Would like to learn:

SAP
Tableau
R

Classes taken (not listed above, not a complete list):

Intro to Statistics
Land Use Planning
Energy Resource Management
Math through Precalculus
Soil Science
Sedimentation and Stratigraphy
Mineralogy
Physical and Historical Geology
Visual Basic


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02 Aug 2019, 6:34 am

Boy, I know a place locally that would bend over backwards to hire you with those credentials (Geography was my special interest for a while).

I don't want to post my full credentials (since I am only one of a few hundred people in Canada who has it) but I do have a Commerce Degree from one of Canada's top business schools, two Diplomas in my field from Canada's largest community college, three major internationally recognized certifications (that cost over $7000 so they aren't just a one day course) and too many small certifications to list (Advanced Medical Responder, Crisis Intervention, several types of heavy equipment operation, etc) but as I have mentioned I have only gotten two interviews. What's worse is that several jobs I have been rejected for (and are more than qualified for) have been re-posted not once but twice!

One of the jobs I applied for (statistics related) went to someone with a psychology degree and another dream promotion I applied for where I literally took a leave of absence to train for went to someone outside the organization who met ZERO of the four educational requirements but had more experience. On the plus side I hold no bitterness towards this person and we have a great professional relationship after I told them the whole story.