To say that I am an aspie at an interview

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29 Aug 2008, 7:38 pm

prometheuspann wrote:
all you need is some good psychology and you can fake it.
You can't fake it if they demand that you abuse someone else.
I can't pass it on to someone who doesn't deserve it.



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29 Aug 2008, 10:49 pm

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Do not tell them. I just got a job at target and they dont know that im an aspie. AS is not recognized as a disability by the ADA act passed in 1990 so if you tell they will think you are weird and then try to find some excuse not to hire you.

just a word of advice


Are you absolutely certain that the ADA doesn't recognize autism spectrum disorders as a disability? I would like to see that. I had a case where I was denied a promotion under the excuse of my AS (and the excuse was bogus), and Co-Ad was going to help me take the place to court over it....I decided I didn't want the hassle (not too bright on my part).

I do tell them, (after I'm hired) because once they know, they *can't* use it as an excuse to fire me.



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29 Aug 2008, 10:50 pm

chamoisee wrote:
soljaboi51 wrote:
Do not tell them. I just got a job at target and they dont know that im an aspie. AS is not recognized as a disability by the ADA act passed in 1990 so if you tell they will think you are weird and then try to find some excuse not to hire you.

just a word of advice


Are you absolutely certain that the ADA doesn't recognize autism spectrum disorders as a disability? I would like to see that. I had a case where I was denied a promotion under the excuse of my AS (and the excuse was bogus), and Co-Ad was going to help me take the place to court over it....I decided I didn't want the hassle (not too bright on my part).

I do tell them, (after I'm hired) because once they know, they *can't* use it as an excuse to fire me.


In most cases the threat of going to court is enough to get them to change. You should have just said you wanted to - chances are it would have never made it that far



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29 Aug 2008, 10:56 pm

Tahitiii wrote:
prometheuspann wrote:
all you need is some good psychology and you can fake it.
You can't fake it if they demand that you abuse someone else.
I can't pass it on to someone who doesn't deserve it.


That sounds like another issue entirely



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29 Aug 2008, 10:57 pm

After a cursory look at results of googling the topic, I think we are covered under the ADA. However, it is under the heading of autism spectrum disorder (which AS is), not Asperger's.



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29 Aug 2008, 10:59 pm

chamoisee wrote:
After a cursory look at results of googling the topic, I think we are covered under the ADA. However, it is under the heading of autism spectrum disorder (which AS is), not Asperger's.


Asperger's is not really a very good label anyway. I think they may be removing Asperger's from the next version of the DSM in favor of categorizing people with asperger's as autistic.



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31 Jan 2010, 9:07 pm

People think that hiring people with AS is considered as a big "liability" and a threat to safety. But don't we all have ambitions and goals, I mean can't the corporate world be a little more fair and just accept people for they way that they are.



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01 Feb 2010, 8:20 am

soljaboi51 wrote:
Do not tell them. I just got a job at target and they dont know that im an aspie. AS is not recognized as a disability by the ADA act passed in 1990 so if you tell they will think you are weird and then try to find some excuse not to hire you.


Correction. The ADA DOES NOT specify what is a "disability" and what is not. However, to be protected by the ADA, you have to be able to document that you have a disability. If you're blind, deaf, on crutches, in a wheelchair, etc. it speaks for itself. If you have a mental or emotional disability, or just a physical disability which is not readily apparent, then medical documentation is needed or an employer can refuse to accommodate based on your inability to prove you are "disabled."



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02 Feb 2010, 2:47 pm

I wouldn't, just because no one interviewing you can know enough about you to know how it manifests. It's not like being blind, where, if you are blind, you're blind.

AS can have alot of different characteristics and people can be strong in differing areas. If they google it they can get a wrong impression.



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02 Feb 2010, 6:05 pm

Either way, if you tell about AS in the interview and they have more at least similar candidates to choose from they can pretty safely scratch you from the list. They might have no idea what it is, but if it has a name then it has to be something "serious", and when you start to explain your brain works differently ... well i think most interviewers will reach a "conclusion" right there. Problem is that interviews are far from objective so it`s a huge grey area where they can hire almost anyone they want provided he/she fits the criteria they set. Don`t give them another reason to deny you, unless it`s of direct benefit for the position which is highly unlikely.



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08 Feb 2010, 3:07 am

What about if they ask you on an job application form "do you have any disability, impairment or handicap which could effect your work performance?"

Ive have just been filling out an application form which asks this and almost all job application froms here have some version of this question and I always have difficulties deciding whether to tell them the truth or not, which is that I have NLD and in most jobs it effects me in some way or another, even if it just makes me slow (I can be pretty slow). So far I have not revealed my NLD.

What makes this application different is that I have already done this job before so I know it
effects me, but not necessarily to the point where they may fire me. The job is also working with disabled people and I know I can do the job because I did it before and they did not fire me (although it depends on who is still there that was there before, three years ago). They did however call in the manager at one point in order to talk to me about what they could do to help me work better, The things they put in place worked so I did no get let go. But I have been let go from other work place before because of performance issues.

If I did decide to disclose any information about any type of disability to my employers I would usually prefer to wait until I have been employed by a company and done the job for a while to see how it effects me. If I come up against any major problems I would tell them. At the time I worked in this job previously I did not know anything about NLD (which is similar to Aspergers in many ways) or much about Aspergers either.

I dont think it is likely that they are still going to remember that they called the manager in for me previously when I worked there but I have been through a lot of entry level jobs which I either havent had for long or I remained in that position for a lot longer than others who would usually have been able to move on to a higher positions a while ago. This was also the case last time I worked for this employer

Sorry Im going on for so long. I dont think anyone has ever been ;let go or anything for not reaveling learning disabilty or Aspergers on a job application form.



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21 Feb 2010, 4:59 pm

:wall: DO NOT trust management. Just because they are managers and that usually they are someone you should be able to confide in about something like this and keep quiet, NO.

Behind my back, my mother spoke to the lady who hired me about my AS. This lady was a genuinely great person, but she's one of those "one in a million" types of people. But when the management as a whole knows about it, it is the other managers I couldn't trust. I once had an employee of the lowest rank (bagger) ask me if it was true I had a mental condition. :shameonyou:


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22 Feb 2010, 1:12 am

Don't tell them. They will not take it seriously at all.

Unless you want to do some sort of internship or something specifically for those with AS, there is no reason to tell anyone.