GABA L-Theanine Topical "Calming" Cream?

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Anyone tried this? Someone recommended to me. Looks too good to be true....
Which usually means it is.


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Calming Cream Rx was designed by a leading neuroimmune specialist to provide maximum transdermal delivery of gamma-aminobutyric acid (GABA), L-Theanine, L-Tyrosine, 5-HTP and Magnesium in a lotion base of lavender oil.




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•Relaxation
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•Sleep Disturbances
•Trouble Falling Asleep




This topical cream is designed to increase the levels of the calming and anxiety reducing neurotransmitters in the brain such as dopamine, GABA and serotonin. (60 Pumps Per Bottle)
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Guys, please don't do this to your kids. When kids are angry, there's ALWAYS a reason. That reason is often something that YOU do that bothers the kid. What this obsession with making kids calm all comes down to is that parents want calm kids because calm kids are easier for the parents to gain control over and not listen to (parents can go on power trips). Keep in mind that police interrogators often use GABA to make suspects more submissive.

AspieAshley, pelase don't generalize about parents here. You are talking to a mom who has spent countless hours and a tremendous amount of effort trying everything to help her daughter. There is no OBSESSION with claming this child down and no desire to CONTROL her. This is a honest interest to learn about another possile tool that might help cope day to day. If you have first hand knowledge about the product, your insight would be quite welcome.

From what I have read, this stuff does not actually get absorbed through the skin and do anything other than what a normal moisturizer would do. I believe that a neurologist or child psychiatrist will be able to handle the above symptoms through medication. (My kids have all of the above symptoms except "neuropathic pains," whatever that is.) They are helped greatly by Prozac (fluoxetine) by day for severe anxiety and Clonidine at night for sleep and further anxiety relief.

^ Putting DMSO on first will make anything you put on after get absorbed through the skin. Or you could mix it with DMSO, it's a carrier. Protesters in the late 60's would sometimes mix DMSO and LSD and put it in squirt guns and squirt the cops with them when they came to arrest them.

BlondeAmbition, my daughter can't have Clonodine because of already too low blood pressure.

Ths formulation was created by a Dr where you live, in Austin. His name is Dr Kendall Stewart of the NeuroSensory Center. He is supposedly a neurologist.

Someone I know is working with him and said he is getting some amazing results (whatever that means). I am by no means going to believe everything I hear or see but thought I'd see if anyone had any experience.

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Also, Thanks Bombaloo!

Also, this person who recommended said he was doing studies on the neurological pre-cursors to neurotransmitters. I don't know a lot about neurology but it had to do with some of these substances in this cream actually helping with some chemical imbalances with seratonin, dopamine, etc.

I don't know if this is just DAN rhetoric or not.

http://www.drkendalstewart.com/doctor-b ... hysicians/

Above is his bio from his business website. He is not a neurologist, but a neurotologist and former ear/nose/throat surgeon.

Several people in my local chapter of the Autism Society see him or have seen him (mostly people who are into special diets and alternative therapies, I think). I don't want to say too much about him because I don't want to be tarred and feathered here locally. Most people here are not into alternative therapies, but there is a small group that is extremely passionate about such things.

Anyway, I think that Austin has just about every alternative therapy available. However, I personally do not know of anyone whose child has been cured through this facility or by the other local facilites offering alternative therapies, either. (I know a lot of people with kids with autism, and I'm constantly on the local Autism Society Yahoo! group.)

As far as I know, my oldest son has made more progress than anyone else around here without these creams, and I guess that I have a few people that read my advice online or ask me for pointers. Why people continue to spend money on these creams or some of the other expensive, unproven interventions around here that don't seem to work, I don't know.

gamma-aminobutyric acid (GABA),
A number of commercial sources sell formulations of GABA for use as a dietary supplement, sometimes for sublingual administration. These sources typically make claims that the supplement has a calming effect. No scientific assessment of such claims exists, but because of the extensive evidence that GABA does not cross the blood-brain barrier at significant levels,[39] these claims are likely untrue. However some over-the-counter supplements such as Picamilon claim to cross the barrier due to added macro-molecules that later hydrolyze into its constituents: GABA and niacin in the case of Picamilon.[citation needed]

5-HTP
Possible risks or side effects
Because 5-HTP has not been thoroughly studied in a clinical setting, possible side effects and interactions with other drugs are not well known.

Administered serotonin has been shown to increase the risk of heart valve disease in animals.[19][20] 5-HTP has not been subjected to this test. Oral 5-HTP results in an increase in urinary 5-HIAA, a serotonin metabolite, indicating that 5-HTP is peripherally metabolized to serotonin, which is then metabolized. This might cause a false positive test in tests looking for carcinoid syndrome.[21]

5-HTP can cause hypertension by increasing plasma renin activity, when not co-administered with a peripheral aromatic L-amino acid decarboxylase inhibitor, such as carbidopa or benserazide.[22]

IT"S UP TO YOU DO SOME RESEARCH FIRST!! !! !! !! !! !! !! !!

Direct and indirect evidence for possible yet unproven risks and side effects associated with 5-HTP when overdosed:

Heart valve damage or disease (cardiac fibrosis).[19][20]
When combined with MAOIs or SSRIs, 5-HTP can cause acute serotonin syndrome.[23][24]
When combined with carbidopa (as a treatment for symptoms of Parkinson's disease), 5-HTP causes nausea and vomiting; however this can be alleviated via administration of granisetron.[25] As mentioned above under pharmacology, cases of scleroderma-like illness have been reported in patients using carbidopa and 5-HTP.[26]
It has been suggested that 5-HTP may cause eosinophilia-myalgia syndrome (EMS), a serious condition which results in extreme muscle tenderness, myalgia, and blood abnormalities. However, there is evidence to show that EMS was caused by a contaminant in early 5-HTP supplements, before the introduction of the current Good Manufacturing Practices by the United States FDA in 2007. Many countries now employ similar regulation.

It's always risky to generalize, but AspieAshley makes a valid point. Too often, parents and teachers are more interested in dealing with symptoms (some unwanted or troubling behavior) than they are in figuring out the source of the distress. That's true for both Aspies and neurotypicals. Certainly that's not always the case, but often enough to watch out for.

Sometimes, there is no logical source of distress. Sometimes, the stressors cannot be eliminated. Sometimes, the person feels enormous anger and anxiety in response to normal, everyday things not reasonably within the parent's control.

(My bipolar husband has experienced delusions in the past, for instance. My older son's learning disabilities cause him stress. Having to talk with other people, ordinary noise, transitions during the school day, etc., can all be triggers that a parent cannot control.)

Sometimes, lack of curiousity about the source of a problem and lack of diligence on the part of caregivers can definitely be an issue, though. I personally have a history of epilepsy that was cured by surgery in 2000, for instance. I had uncontrollable seizures for eight years and was often seriously overmedicated. I had a lot of anger at my parents after I was cured of the epilepsy because I felt that they did not really try to help me solve my treatable condition. I went to the doctor and got prescriptions, but everyone (including me) left all of the problem-solving, research, and decision-making to the doctors.

Welcome to WP.

I can understand what you are saying in the abstract but I made my comment because, while it may sound a bit odd, I feel I know the OP to some degree. Her and I have both been posting on this forum for over a year and I have seen her talk about trying many options specifically those designed to "figure out the source of distress" for her daughter. She is not asking about this product as a first means of dealing with some "troubling" behavior. Many of the parents who come here spend a great deal of time here and elsewhere learning what they can do for their kids. When someone who doesn't know much about us comes and makes very generalized, judgemental sounding statements, I get defensive.

I'd say as a parent that when your kid is in the middle of some horribly bad emotional moment that your concern right that second is to make them feel better at that time. After they start feeling better, then you find out what caused it and work on helping to prevent it happening again, which is what I'm sure the OP plans on doing.

An analogy would be if my child came in the house with four or five stingers stuck in his hand, I would pull them out, put something on there, bandage it up and give him some benadryl to make him feel better right then, and after that I'd go out and look for the wasps nest to prevent them from getting him again. The calming cream would be like the bandage and benadryl.

Fix the immediate problem, then search for ways to prevent it from happening again. It sounds like the calming cream was meant to help the child feel better right then so that the parent can help them. It's a compassionate, loving response. It's not like somebody is shooting them in the neck with a tranqualizer dart to make them be quiet.

I have ASD-related sleep problems and have found GABA helpful for sort of quieting down my mind before bed on occasion. Theanine is something I've also tried and found helpful. And, personally, I would always try an all-natural supplement first and approach putting someone on prescription meds with potentially serious side-effects as a last resort.

I am skeptical of how effective it would be to use it in topical form, though, and concerned you'd just be forking over $40 for a moisturizer. If your child has trouble swallowing pills, there is a peppermint-flavored GABA supplement that is designed to melt in your mouth like a lozenge that might be a good alternative. The brandname is Source Naturals.

Something else to bear in mind are that a lot of the time people on the Spectrum tend to be rather sensitive to meds and supplements, so it would be good to try less than the recommended dosage for their age range for a while and see how that works, rather than starting them out at the full dosage on the bottle right away.

I once tried theanine for anxiety. It did help the anxiety quite a bit, but it also left me constantly angry and dangerously suicidal.

Needless to say, I don't take it anymore.

I tried giving my younger son L-theanine blend Relax-a-Saurus children's chewables (available off of Amazon.com). The chewables seemed to help, and he took them for a while. However, he needs meds for OCD every day, and Prozac (fluoxetine) is much more effective and doesn't wear off as fast. It helps with fixations, improves his mood, and makes him more receptive to speech and ABA therapy. Prozac has been around since the late 1980s and is known to be a pretty safe drug.

I had tried the Relax-a-saurus because he initially refused to take the liquid Prozac due to its medicine taste. As soon as he finally agreed to take the Prozac (so that he could be like his big brother), I switched him over.

OCD is commonly treated with Prozac, and my younger son meets the DSM criteria for OCD, in addition to autism.