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09 Oct 2019, 11:41 pm

The BIDEN UKRAINE scandal expands. Reports from Ukraine say Joe Biden was paid $900,000 — pretty much a straight-up bribe. No wonder Joe gets testy when people ask about it.


Burisma paid Joe Biden $900,000 for lobbying – Ukrainian MP

KYIV. Oct 9 (Interfax-Ukraine) – Former U.S. Vice President Joe Biden received $900,000 for lobbying activities from Burisma Group, Ukraine's Verkhovna Rada member Andriy Derkach said citing investigation materials.

Derkach publicized documents which, as he said, "describe the mechanism of getting money by Biden Sr." at a press conference at Interfax-Ukraine's press center in Kyiv on Wednesday.

"This was the transfer of Burisma Group's funds for lobbying activities, as investigators believe, personally to Joe Biden through a lobbying company. Funds in the amount of $900,000 were transferred to the U.S.-based company Rosemont Seneca Partners, which according to open sources, in particular, the New York Times, is affiliated with Biden. The payment reference was payment for consultative services," Derkach said.

He also publicized sums that were transferred to Burisma Group representatives, in particular Hunter Biden, a son of the former U.S. vice president.


https://en.interfax.com.ua/news/press-c ... 17936.html


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09 Oct 2019, 11:50 pm

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The BIDEN UKRAINE scandal expands. Reports from Ukraine say Joe Biden was paid $900,000 — pretty much a straight-up bribe. No wonder Joe gets testy when people ask about it.


Burisma paid Joe Biden $900,000 for lobbying – Ukrainian MP

KYIV. Oct 9 (Interfax-Ukraine) – Former U.S. Vice President Joe Biden received $900,000 for lobbying activities from Burisma Group, Ukraine's Verkhovna Rada member Andriy Derkach said citing investigation materials.

Derkach publicized documents which, as he said, "describe the mechanism of getting money by Biden Sr." at a press conference at Interfax-Ukraine's press center in Kyiv on Wednesday.

"This was the transfer of Burisma Group's funds for lobbying activities, as investigators believe, personally to Joe Biden through a lobbying company. Funds in the amount of $900,000 were transferred to the U.S.-based company Rosemont Seneca Partners, which according to open sources, in particular, the New York Times, is affiliated with Biden. The payment reference was payment for consultative services," Derkach said.

He also publicized sums that were transferred to Burisma Group representatives, in particular Hunter Biden, a son of the former U.S. vice president.


https://en.interfax.com.ua/news/press-c ... 17936.html


Biden was asked to deliver the message asking that the corrupt prosecutor be fired.
The corrupt "son-of-a-b*tch's" successor only then investigated Biden's son - who had been hired to the board of directors afterward - and found nothing.
The sum was given to the son of the "former U.S. vice president," according to your source.


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10 Oct 2019, 12:58 am

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^^^the sociopathic way is never to admit wrongdoing and to always deflect blame towards an innocent. those people elected one of their own, circle the wagons around him, and that is what they continue to do.


Oh the irony. Biden's son got thrown out of the US army for doing crack and then got a cushy job in Ukraine and his daddy blackmailed the country into firing the lead prosecutor. 'But muh Trump'.


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10 Oct 2019, 1:06 am

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auntblabby wrote:
^^^the sociopathic way is never to admit wrongdoing and to always deflect blame towards an innocent. those people elected one of their own, circle the wagons around him, and that is what they continue to do.


Oh the irony. Biden's son got thrown out of the US army for doing crack and then got a cushy job in Ukraine and his daddy blackmailed the country into firing the lead prosecutor. 'But muh Trump'.


Even if that was true about Biden (he in fact was asked internationally to demand the firing of the prosecutor, then the next prosecutor had carried out the investigation and found nothing) the fact remains, Trump had tried to pressure Ukraine into finding dirt on Biden in order to knock him out of the Presidential running, which is clearly illegal.
Please don't tell me Trump - the dirtiest businessman alive and worst husband of all time - was only interested in uncovering corruption.


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10 Oct 2019, 8:19 am

Kraichgauer wrote:
JohnPowell wrote:
auntblabby wrote:
^^^the sociopathic way is never to admit wrongdoing and to always deflect blame towards an innocent. those people elected one of their own, circle the wagons around him, and that is what they continue to do.


Oh the irony. Biden's son got thrown out of the US army for doing crack and then got a cushy job in Ukraine and his daddy blackmailed the country into firing the lead prosecutor. 'But muh Trump'.


Even if that was true about Biden (he in fact was asked internationally to demand the firing of the prosecutor, then the next prosecutor had carried out the investigation and found nothing) the fact remains, Trump had tried to pressure Ukraine into finding dirt on Biden in order to knock him out of the Presidential running, which is clearly illegal.
Please don't tell me Trump - the dirtiest businessman alive and worst husband of all time - was only interested in uncovering corruption.
Thats true about Hunter's drug problem,although I thought it was powder cocaine not crack but that doesn't matter.


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10 Oct 2019, 11:08 am

Kraichgauer wrote:
JohnPowell wrote:
auntblabby wrote:
^^^the sociopathic way is never to admit wrongdoing and to always deflect blame towards an innocent. those people elected one of their own, circle the wagons around him, and that is what they continue to do.


Oh the irony. Biden's son got thrown out of the US army for doing crack and then got a cushy job in Ukraine and his daddy blackmailed the country into firing the lead prosecutor. 'But muh Trump'.


Even if that was true about Biden (he in fact was asked internationally to demand the firing of the prosecutor, then the next prosecutor had carried out the investigation and found nothing) the fact remains, Trump had tried to pressure Ukraine into finding dirt on Biden in order to knock him out of the Presidential running, which is clearly illegal.
Please don't tell me Trump - the dirtiest businessman alive and worst husband of all time - was only interested in uncovering corruption.

Trump released the transcript.

There is no "dig up dirt".

There is no "pressure".

Trump asked Zelensky to investigate a specific, potential criminal act.


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10 Oct 2019, 11:30 am

The real question:

Would Trump ask the Ukrainian president to investigate----a matter which does not pertain to a Democratic challenger?



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10 Oct 2019, 11:33 am

LoveNotHate wrote:
Kraichgauer wrote:
JohnPowell wrote:
auntblabby wrote:
^^^the sociopathic way is never to admit wrongdoing and to always deflect blame towards an innocent. those people elected one of their own, circle the wagons around him, and that is what they continue to do.


Oh the irony. Biden's son got thrown out of the US army for doing crack and then got a cushy job in Ukraine and his daddy blackmailed the country into firing the lead prosecutor. 'But muh Trump'.


Even if that was true about Biden (he in fact was asked internationally to demand the firing of the prosecutor, then the next prosecutor had carried out the investigation and found nothing) the fact remains, Trump had tried to pressure Ukraine into finding dirt on Biden in order to knock him out of the Presidential running, which is clearly illegal.
Please don't tell me Trump - the dirtiest businessman alive and worst husband of all time - was only interested in uncovering corruption.

Trump released the transcript.

There is no "dig up dirt".

There is no "pressure".

Trump asked Zelensky to investigate a specific, potential criminal act.


Are you keeping score? You've made this argument like a million times. We've made our argument 999,999. If we don't make our argument for the millionth time, are you going to declare victory?


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10 Oct 2019, 11:42 am

If there is corruption in the Ukraine----let the Ukrainians investigate it as they see fit----without the intercession of a foreign power.



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10 Oct 2019, 11:46 am

beneficii wrote:
LoveNotHate wrote:
Kraichgauer wrote:
JohnPowell wrote:
auntblabby wrote:
^^^the sociopathic way is never to admit wrongdoing and to always deflect blame towards an innocent. those people elected one of their own, circle the wagons around him, and that is what they continue to do.


Oh the irony. Biden's son got thrown out of the US army for doing crack and then got a cushy job in Ukraine and his daddy blackmailed the country into firing the lead prosecutor. 'But muh Trump'.


Even if that was true about Biden (he in fact was asked internationally to demand the firing of the prosecutor, then the next prosecutor had carried out the investigation and found nothing) the fact remains, Trump had tried to pressure Ukraine into finding dirt on Biden in order to knock him out of the Presidential running, which is clearly illegal.
Please don't tell me Trump - the dirtiest businessman alive and worst husband of all time - was only interested in uncovering corruption.

Trump released the transcript.

There is no "dig up dirt".

There is no "pressure".

Trump asked Zelensky to investigate a specific, potential criminal act.


Are you keeping score? You've made this argument like a million times. We've made our argument 999,999. If we don't make our argument for the millionth time, are you going to declare victory?

Proof is required, not mere accusation.

Many, many people were convinced of TRUMP Russian election meddling too.

However, they found no proof.


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10 Oct 2019, 12:04 pm

kraftiekortie wrote:
The real question:

Would Trump ask the Ukrainian president to investigate----a matter which does not pertain to a Democratic challenger?


Obviously not. But he wouldn't even have done it if not for the Russiagate hoax.


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10 Oct 2019, 12:07 pm

beneficii wrote:
LoveNotHate wrote:
Kraichgauer wrote:
JohnPowell wrote:
auntblabby wrote:
^^^the sociopathic way is never to admit wrongdoing and to always deflect blame towards an innocent. those people elected one of their own, circle the wagons around him, and that is what they continue to do.


Oh the irony. Biden's son got thrown out of the US army for doing crack and then got a cushy job in Ukraine and his daddy blackmailed the country into firing the lead prosecutor. 'But muh Trump'.


Even if that was true about Biden (he in fact was asked internationally to demand the firing of the prosecutor, then the next prosecutor had carried out the investigation and found nothing) the fact remains, Trump had tried to pressure Ukraine into finding dirt on Biden in order to knock him out of the Presidential running, which is clearly illegal.
Please don't tell me Trump - the dirtiest businessman alive and worst husband of all time - was only interested in uncovering corruption.

Trump released the transcript.

There is no "dig up dirt".

There is no "pressure".

Trump asked Zelensky to investigate a specific, potential criminal act.


Are you keeping score? You've made this argument like a million times. We've made our argument 999,999. If we don't make our argument for the millionth time, are you going to declare victory?


You don't have an argument. You are just repeating CIA and DNC talking points. It's the same script as the Russiagate hoax.


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10 Oct 2019, 3:59 pm

LoveNotHate wrote:
Kraichgauer wrote:
JohnPowell wrote:
auntblabby wrote:
^^^the sociopathic way is never to admit wrongdoing and to always deflect blame towards an innocent. those people elected one of their own, circle the wagons around him, and that is what they continue to do.


Oh the irony. Biden's son got thrown out of the US army for doing crack and then got a cushy job in Ukraine and his daddy blackmailed the country into firing the lead prosecutor. 'But muh Trump'.


Even if that was true about Biden (he in fact was asked internationally to demand the firing of the prosecutor, then the next prosecutor had carried out the investigation and found nothing) the fact remains, Trump had tried to pressure Ukraine into finding dirt on Biden in order to knock him out of the Presidential running, which is clearly illegal.
Please don't tell me Trump - the dirtiest businessman alive and worst husband of all time - was only interested in uncovering corruption.

Trump released the transcript.

There is no "dig up dirt".

There is no "pressure".

Trump asked Zelensky to investigate a specific, potential criminal act.


Only according to Trump.
The whistle blower is regarded as legit.
If Trump is innocent, why is he hysterically refusing to cooperate?


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10 Oct 2019, 7:26 pm

Kraichgauer wrote:
LoveNotHate wrote:
Kraichgauer wrote:
JohnPowell wrote:
auntblabby wrote:
^^^the sociopathic way is never to admit wrongdoing and to always deflect blame towards an innocent. those people elected one of their own, circle the wagons around him, and that is what they continue to do.


Oh the irony. Biden's son got thrown out of the US army for doing crack and then got a cushy job in Ukraine and his daddy blackmailed the country into firing the lead prosecutor. 'But muh Trump'.


Even if that was true about Biden (he in fact was asked internationally to demand the firing of the prosecutor, then the next prosecutor had carried out the investigation and found nothing) the fact remains, Trump had tried to pressure Ukraine into finding dirt on Biden in order to knock him out of the Presidential running, which is clearly illegal.
Please don't tell me Trump - the dirtiest businessman alive and worst husband of all time - was only interested in uncovering corruption.

Trump released the transcript.

There is no "dig up dirt".

There is no "pressure".

Trump asked Zelensky to investigate a specific, potential criminal act.


Only according to Trump.
The whistle blower is regarded as legit.
If Trump is innocent, why is he hysterically refusing to cooperate?

Your response indicates you don't comprehend what is going on.

The whistleblower is blowing the whistle about the phone call (about the transcript).

Zelensky publicly stated today that there was no blackmail, no pressure by TRUMP.

So, what is your proof?


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10 Oct 2019, 8:25 pm

LoveNotHate wrote:
Kraichgauer wrote:
LoveNotHate wrote:
Kraichgauer wrote:
JohnPowell wrote:
auntblabby wrote:
^^^the sociopathic way is never to admit wrongdoing and to always deflect blame towards an innocent. those people elected one of their own, circle the wagons around him, and that is what they continue to do.


Oh the irony. Biden's son got thrown out of the US army for doing crack and then got a cushy job in Ukraine and his daddy blackmailed the country into firing the lead prosecutor. 'But muh Trump'.


Even if that was true about Biden (he in fact was asked internationally to demand the firing of the prosecutor, then the next prosecutor had carried out the investigation and found nothing) the fact remains, Trump had tried to pressure Ukraine into finding dirt on Biden in order to knock him out of the Presidential running, which is clearly illegal.
Please don't tell me Trump - the dirtiest businessman alive and worst husband of all time - was only interested in uncovering corruption.

Trump released the transcript.

There is no "dig up dirt".

There is no "pressure".

Trump asked Zelensky to investigate a specific, potential criminal act.


Only according to Trump.
The whistle blower is regarded as legit.
If Trump is innocent, why is he hysterically refusing to cooperate?

Your response indicates you don't comprehend what is going on.

The whistleblower is blowing the whistle about the phone call (about the transcript).

Zelensky publicly stated today that there was no blackmail, no pressure by TRUMP.

So, what is your proof?


Have you seen the transcript?
There is another whistle blower who was a first hand witness.
Zelensky is afraid of crossing Trump and losing any further aid. Still, it was obvious Trump asked him for a favor before he gets the funds promised him.
The fact that a couple of Giuliani's henchmen who had been operating for Trump in Ukraine have been arrested speaks volumes. And to get lighter sentences, they'll speak volumes, too!


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