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01 Apr 2021, 2:22 pm

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Thanks. I liked your takes on it in other threads, my favorites, very explanatory and I liked xempire's own ones too.


I like how you framed your take.
I'm going to be making a video about this topic soon.

Can you link the thread here please when you're making it?



I'll PM it as well.

It might just be me lecturing a stuffed cat. With no video to distract the viewer with overwhelming cuteness. :nerdy:


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09 Apr 2021, 4:14 am

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Thanks. I liked your takes on it in other threads, my favorites, very explanatory and I liked xempire's own ones too.


I like how you framed your take.
I'm going to be making a video about this topic soon.

Can you link the thread here please when you're making it?



I'll PM it as well.

It might just be me lecturing a stuffed cat. With no video to distract the viewer with overwhelming cuteness. :nerdy:

Thanks, your Meowiness.


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09 Apr 2021, 6:14 am

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When it's an economic war of all against all you'll then see natural antipathies heightened rather than decreased, and TBH at present it seems like were doing unusually well at keeping the veneer of civility, even with as much economic damage and uncertainty as Covid has given us.


I have read that COVID triggered economic downturn might lead to a 1930s type of global depression which lead to massive civil unrest. IStrangely notice Burma's military, the IRA, PLO, Bangladeshi militants are all on the move suddenly, It's like the clock is turning back.

Yes we all know how thin the veil of civility was in 1929 and how nobody expected that in 10 years the entire world would be drawn into a world war.



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09 Apr 2021, 7:21 am

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When it's an economic war of all against all you'll then see natural antipathies heightened rather than decreased, and TBH at present it seems like were doing unusually well at keeping the veneer of civility, even with as much economic damage and uncertainty as Covid has given us.


I have read that COVID triggered economic downturn might lead to a 1930s type of global depression which lead to massive civil unrest. IStrangely notice Burma's military, the IRA, PLO, Bangladeshi militants are all on the move suddenly, It's like the clock is turning back.

Yes we all know how thin the veil of civility was in 1929 and how nobody expected that in 10 years the entire world would be drawn into a world war.

Another interesting thing, at least for anyone who'd be able to listen to Mark Blyth for 90 minutes. He talks about the economic pendulum flips in the global economy between the late 19th century and today and surmises that we're due for a 4th switch but - like the period between WW1 and WW2 where the wealthy were in control of the situation - it would take significant failures, such as the rich almost losing everything, for there to be enough agreement that there's a problem and that the rules need to change. Mark's take seems to be that global warming 'might' replace WW2 if we're lucky, I'm not 100% sure I agree but it would be nice to think that it gets intuitively readable enough that a properly 'human' problem starts ringing in the public consciousness enough for it not to just turn into more class cannibalism.


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09 Apr 2021, 9:38 am

Nathan J. Robinson - Wikipedia bio

Nathan J. Robinson quits the left wing magazine he founded

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It has been a pleasure and a privilege to serve as editor of this magazine for the last five years. However, I must ruefully inform you that I am hereby stepping down from the position and terminating my connection with this enterprise.

I speak from sorrow, not resentment. I am proud to have assisted in transforming this publication from a glorified blog into the mighty national print bimonthly and intellectual powerhouse that it is today

Alas, it seems that a free and independent intellect has no place at a left journal anymore. Diversity of opinion, once a fixed and immutable ideal, has fallen by the wayside, the ideology of conformity having taken its place. Unless one’s thoughts are Socially Just, they are considered unworthy, even appalling. Every day, we see stories of a new hideous injustice. A white person is politely discouraged from doing a rap about the school library. An article about hamentaschen has its headline changed. An esteemed political scientist is called a “racist as*hole” (and even more unspeakable names) on Twitter, merely for declaring that imperialist atrocities have an upside. A professor is condemned for uttering a racial slur. A comedian is heckled about his history of sexual misconduct. A publishing company questions whether an author’s work has intellectual merit. A company requires its staff to attend a one-day seminar on “treating colleagues respectfully.” A perfectly decent man is told his perspective may be biased. The Woke Mafia never sleeps.

No longer can one explore ideas freely. There was a time, reader, when the important questions could be posed and discussed in a civil manner. Questions like “Was the 19th Amendment wise or unwise?” and “How do we know phrenology wasn’t onto something?” Now, even to pose these questions is considered an affront, something unwoke and discreditable. The discourse has been debased to the point where even to ask whether some people ought to be placed in cages for the rest of their natural lives, or whether there is something kind of fishy about people who look different from one’s self, is considered a “cancelable” offense.

Yes, reader, I am among the canceled. I never thought it would happen to me. I thought my commitment to facts and reason would keep me safe. But nobody is safe from the mob. The Robespierres of social media conduct literal electronic beheadings.

My own case has been an extreme example. I am sure the reader has seen it. Tweet after Tweet, a barrage of relentless mockery and scorn. “Nathan Robinson is a f*****g imbecile who knows nothing about architecture.” “dude f**k nathan j robinson seriously.” “lol at a guy who dresses like this calling himself a leftist [insert photograph].” My inbox overflows with subject lines like “hey cumstain” and “important factual correction to your piece.” I find myself trapped in Orwell’s nightmare.

What has distressed me most is the lack of support from colleagues. Drawn from the Millennial and Zoomer generations, they are unaccustomed to norms of free speech and open debate. When I wished to publish a 7,000 word article by an abusive misogynist defending his conduct, I was told that this was a “horrible idea” and pelted with questions from subordinates like “why the f**k would you do that?” and “please please can we talk about this?” The New York Review of Books snagged the essay instead. An opportunity missed, for reasons of pure political correctness. When I recommended publishing an open letter by an esteemed intellectual that posed as a defense of neutral speech principles but was clearly intended as an attack on the left, fellow editors had the gall to suggest the piece needed “specific examples” and “research.” Yet again, a rival magazine scored clicks that were rightfully ours. Yet again, the cancelers triumphed.

I can take it no longer. I cannot work under these conditions. I am told that certain forms of speech by a magazine editor are frowned upon, such as the statement “you will all come into the office, pandemic or no.” Intolerance reigns supreme: I am even asked to refer to people the way they would prefer to be referred to—that is to say, my very words are being crafted for me by others. An ideology of forced equality has created demands of me such as “eliminate gender pay disparities” and “try not to publish anything racist.” Finally, I understand what Solzhenitsyn must have felt during those years in the gulag.


I am not familiar with this person nor the magazine he founded nor what was going on there. That said I disagree with a lot of what he said here. If I was on the staff I certainly would want to get rid of an editor that has gender based pay inequities and said I had to come in during a pandemic called me what I do not want to be called. His comparing himself to Solzhenitsyn is offensive. Solzhenitsyn had no choice, Mr. Robinson quit and still has his freedom and an opportunity to continue to earn a living.

As a left wing publication it is plausible a stifling “regressive left” culture took hold but based on what I have read here it was probably him or maybe both.

Either way spoiled privileged people like him is a major reason why wonderful principles are being thrown in the trash.

Socialist cancelled by wokes at his own magazine was the post I thought I was going to write and wanted to write upon learning about this story. Ah well.


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10 Apr 2021, 1:57 am

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As a left wing publication it is plausible a stifling “regressive left” culture took hold but based on what I have read here it was probably him or maybe both.

Either way spoiled privileged people like him is a major reason why wonderful principles are being thrown in the trash.

Socialist cancelled by wokes at his own magazine was the post I thought I was going to write and wanted to write upon learning about this story. Ah well.


hmmmm let's examine his gripes shall we....
1.A white person is politely discouraged from doing a rap about the school library.

I mean white people don't rap very well...isn't this sensible advice?

2.An esteemed political scientist is called a “racist as*hole”declaring that imperialist atrocities have an upside.
I mean that's insensitive at best and he's a racist as*hole at worst...nothing wring there either

3. A professor is condemned for uttering a racist slur
I have said before somebody capable of gaining tenureship as a university professor should be capable of emotional intelligence not to use racist language? I mean how hard is it not to "poop" in public?

4.A comedian is heckled about his history of sexual misconduct.
Another comedian Dave Chappelle said it best that people need to "man the f*** up". Comedians (of all people) should be willing to take what they dish out.

5. A publishing company questions whether a manuscript by Trump apologist Jordan Petersen has intellectual merit.
Does he read the crap JP writes?

The former editor has turned on the left as a scapegoat for his own inadequacies. The ability of being an intellectual is to also know the boundaries of acceptable norms of social decency, moral and ethics in the society they live in.

It's not rocket science. Nathan J Robinson couldn't hack it. End of story....do you want me to quite Dave Chappelle again :lol:



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10 Apr 2021, 4:30 am

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Editor of top US medical journal put on leave amid outcry over racism podcast
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The editor-in-chief of Jama, the Journal of the American Medical Association, has been placed on leave amid controversy over comments about structural racism made on a podcast by one of his deputies.

The New York Times reported that the American Medical Association told staff on Thursday Dr Howard Bauchner would be replaced by an interim editor while an investigation was carried out.

The comments at issue were made by Dr Ed Livingston in February, in conversation with Dr Mitch Katz on a podcast entitled “Structural Racism for Doctors – What is It?”

“Structural racism is an unfortunate term,” Livingston said. “Personally, I think taking racism out of the conversation will help. Many people like myself are offended by the implication that we are somehow racist.”

A tweet promoting the podcast said: “No physician is racist, so how can there be structural racism in healthcare? An explanation of the idea by doctors for doctors.”

The tweet was deleted but backlash was intense

Nearly 7,000 people signed a Change.org petition calling for Jama to “stop perpetuating racism in medicine”.

The podcast was also deleted. In a statement replacing it online, Bauchner said: “Comments made in the podcast were inaccurate, offensive, hurtful and inconsistent with the standards of Jama.

“Racism and structural racism exist in the US and in healthcare. After careful consideration, I determined that the harms caused by the podcast outweighed any reason for the podcast to remain available on the Jama Network.”

When I first heard about I thought this was another example of woke overreach. My goodness saying you are offended being called a racist is now a fireable offense in elite of the medical world. But then they promoted the podcast saying no doctor is racist thus handing the wokes a gift on a silver platter. Arguing that you can not discuss racism in a conversation about racism, WTF?

IMHO the idea that all white doctors are racist is just as offensive as saying no doctors are racist. The problem is the the first is becoming mainstream thought in elite circles and beyond. The other problem is comments like the above “prove” the wokes are right. Of course it does no such thing but in the real world they put anti wokes on the defensive if not leaving them defenseless and give the wokes good reason to be cocky.



A Top Medical Journal Said “No Physician Is Racist.” Now Scientists Are Boycotting.
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Doctors and researchers flooded Twitter and the journal’s inboxes with demands for explanations and complaints pointing out that racism very much exists in healthcare. The Institute for Antiracism in Medicine, a Chicago advocacy group, circulated a Change.org petition that now has more than 7,400 signatures.

Now a small subset of scholars, including McLemore, are taking their protest a step further. At least 10 doctors and researchers, including some who have previously published their work in JAMA, have publicly declared that they will not submit manuscripts to the journal until it addresses its failures. They say they no longer trust that JAMA has the knowledge and sensitivity to evaluate research on racial disparities, and want to see it diversify the mostly-white staff that selects which issues deserve JAMA’s enormous spotlight. Their boycott is an unusual move that could put them at great professional risk.

In medical research, few gatekeepers are more prestigious or more synonymous with the establishment than JAMA, which oversees a network of 13 journals. It is the independently operated publishing arm of the American Medical Association, the country’s leading physicians’ organization. With more than 293,000 subscribers, its flagship title claims to be the most widely circulated medical journal in the world. For clinicians and researchers, getting published in JAMA can be a ticket to securing a new job or getting promoted.

“People’s careers have been made by a single publication in JAMA — that’s how important it is,” McLemore, a professor who studies reproductive health and health inequities, told BuzzFeed News.


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10 Apr 2021, 4:42 am

time for a major competitor to the crooked AMA which in lockstep with the GOP has been the single biggest obstacle to extending healthcare to the working class for a century now.



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10 Apr 2021, 5:00 am

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At least 10 doctors and researchers, including some who have previously published their work in JAMA, have publicly declared that they will not submit manuscripts to the journal until it addresses its failures. They say they no longer trust that JAMA has the knowledge and sensitivity to evaluate research on racial disparities, and want to see it diversify the mostly-white staff that selects which issues deserve JAMA’s enormous spotlight. Their boycott is an unusual move that could put them at great professional risk.


We have a similar problem in Australia. The Australian Medical Association board is almost exclusively white whereas the doctors they are supposed to be representing are 40% non-white.

Asian doctors don't just experience racism in hospitals from colleagues, they get a tonne of racism from ungrateful patients. The only thing that get's them through the job is the mercedes, mansion and membership to a country club and golf course :lol:



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10 Apr 2021, 5:03 am

this asian would trade places with those lucky sons any day o' da week.



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10 Apr 2021, 5:05 am

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this asian would trade places with those lucky sons any day o' da week.


True brother...one doesn't have to sell their soul



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this asian would trade places with those lucky sons any day o' da week.


True brother...one doesn't have to sell their soul

i am aware of how some people feel about others of a diff'rent shade.



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17 Apr 2021, 5:53 am

Simon & Schuster refuses to distribute book by officer who shot Breonna Taylor

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Simon & Schuster has said that it will not be distributing a book by one of the police officers who shot Breonna Taylor, after a small publisher whose books are distributed through S&S announced the book to widespread criticism.

The Fight for Truth: The Inside Story Behind the Breonna Taylor Tragedy is by Sgt Jonathan Mattingly, a Louisville, Kentucky, officer who shot Taylor and was wounded in the raid on her home in March last year. The book is being published by Post Hill Press, a small independent that specialises in “conservative politics” and Christian titles, and home to authors including far-right conspiracy theorist Laura Loomer and the embattled Republican congressman Matt Gaetz.

Mattingly is still employed by the Louisville Police Department and was the first officer to enter Taylor’s apartment after midnight on 13 March 2020, as part of a narcotics investigation. Mattingly fired at least one of the six shots that hit Taylor, according to an FBI ballistics report, but not the one that killed her.

In September, he was cleared by a grand jury, alongside another officer who fired the lethal shot, Detective Myles Cosgrove.

Earlier on Thursday, S&S said in a statement that it had no editorial control over titles released by the smaller publishers for which it provides distribution. Hours later, after widespread criticism and campaigns to complain to S&S head office, the publisher issued a second statement distancing itself from Mattingly’s book.

“Like much of the American public, earlier today Simon & Schuster learned of plans by distribution client Post Hill Press to publish a book by Jonathan Mattingly,” the publisher said. “We have subsequently decided not be involved in the distribution of this book.”


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Simon & Schuster refuses to distribute book by officer who shot Breonna Taylor
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Simon & Schuster has said that it will not be distributing a book by one of the police officers who shot Breonna Taylor, after a small publisher whose books are distributed through S&S announced the book to widespread criticism.

The Fight for Truth: The Inside Story Behind the Breonna Taylor Tragedy is by Sgt Jonathan Mattingly, a Louisville, Kentucky, officer who shot Taylor and was wounded in the raid on her home in March last year. The book is being published by Post Hill Press, a small independent that specialises in “conservative politics” and Christian titles, and home to authors including far-right conspiracy theorist Laura Loomer and the embattled Republican congressman Matt Gaetz.

Mattingly is still employed by the Louisville Police Department and was the first officer to enter Taylor’s apartment after midnight on 13 March 2020, as part of a narcotics investigation. Mattingly fired at least one of the six shots that hit Taylor, according to an FBI ballistics report, but not the one that killed her.

In September, he was cleared by a grand jury, alongside another officer who fired the lethal shot, Detective Myles Cosgrove.

Earlier on Thursday, S&S said in a statement that it had no editorial control over titles released by the smaller publishers for which it provides distribution. Hours later, after widespread criticism and campaigns to complain to S&S head office, the publisher issued a second statement distancing itself from Mattingly’s book.

“Like much of the American public, earlier today Simon & Schuster learned of plans by distribution client Post Hill Press to publish a book by Jonathan Mattingly,” the publisher said. “We have subsequently decided not be involved in the distribution of this book.”


Yes I'm sure the Taylor family will be really impressed by a cop trying to make money from killing their daughter while she was asleep. Really high morals and ethics you expect from the force :roll:



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17 Apr 2021, 8:37 am

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Simon & Schuster refuses to distribute book by officer who shot Breonna Taylor
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Simon & Schuster has said that it will not be distributing a book by one of the police officers who shot Breonna Taylor, after a small publisher whose books are distributed through S&S announced the book to widespread criticism.

The Fight for Truth: The Inside Story Behind the Breonna Taylor Tragedy is by Sgt Jonathan Mattingly, a Louisville, Kentucky, officer who shot Taylor and was wounded in the raid on her home in March last year. The book is being published by Post Hill Press, a small independent that specialises in “conservative politics” and Christian titles, and home to authors including far-right conspiracy theorist Laura Loomer and the embattled Republican congressman Matt Gaetz.

Mattingly is still employed by the Louisville Police Department and was the first officer to enter Taylor’s apartment after midnight on 13 March 2020, as part of a narcotics investigation. Mattingly fired at least one of the six shots that hit Taylor, according to an FBI ballistics report, but not the one that killed her.

In September, he was cleared by a grand jury, alongside another officer who fired the lethal shot, Detective Myles Cosgrove.

Earlier on Thursday, S&S said in a statement that it had no editorial control over titles released by the smaller publishers for which it provides distribution. Hours later, after widespread criticism and campaigns to complain to S&S head office, the publisher issued a second statement distancing itself from Mattingly’s book.

“Like much of the American public, earlier today Simon & Schuster learned of plans by distribution client Post Hill Press to publish a book by Jonathan Mattingly,” the publisher said. “We have subsequently decided not be involved in the distribution of this book.”


Yes I'm sure the Taylor family will be really impressed by a cop trying to make money from killing their daughter while she was asleep. Really high morals and ethics you expect from the force :roll:

When has feelings of surviving loved ones ever stopped people from monetizing the deaths of others? There are Son Of Sam laws that prevent criminals from profiting from their crimes. Irrelevant in this case because the cop was not convicted and even if he was others would have profited.


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17 Apr 2021, 1:29 pm

satan laughs.