Why Are Right Wing Men So Sad?

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29 Jul 2021, 12:21 pm

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Why Are Right Wing Men So Sad?

Because they know they cannot always get their way with foreigners/immigrants, LGBTQs, the media, minorities, politicians, science/scientists, voters, women, the education system, their own children, and people further to the left on the political spectrum.

Note how often they defend homophobia, nationalism, racism, sexism, and xenophobia; as well as ignorance, religion, anti-vaxx/anti-mask policies, and the violent overthrow of the American government.

So Trump lost, and many "right wingers" are sad.

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29 Jul 2021, 12:30 pm

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In related news ...

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White liberals more likely to have a mental health condition

https://www.washingtontimes.com/news/20 ... alth-cond/

By Kelly Sadler - The Washington Times - Thursday, April 22, 2021
ANALYSIS/OPINION:

White liberals are more prone to mental health disorders than individuals who identify as conservative or moderates, according to a Pew Research Center survey.

Sixty-two percent of Whites who classify themselves as “very liberal” or “liberal” have been told by a doctor they have a mental health condition, as compared to 26% of conservatives and 20% of moderates, the study found.

We need to reach out to people with mental health problems and prevent them from disappearing down the rabbit-hole of white liberalism! We need to prevent the left-liberal movement from exploiting these people's anger!

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29 Jul 2021, 12:34 pm

We need to address mental health service better, for all people - men, women, transgendered people, autistic people.

I don't think it's helpful to throw anyone into a box according to their gender or political affiliation.

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29 Jul 2021, 12:57 pm

IsabellaLinton wrote:

We need to address mental health service better, for all people - men, women, transgendered people, autistic people.

I don't think it's helpful to throw anyone into a box according to their gender or political affiliation.

Divisive rhetoric only serves to further divide people, which is exactly what we don't need right now.

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29 Jul 2021, 1:01 pm

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Example. What were one of the flimsy links

Well for one, the tenuous link between personal inadequacies and racial/ethnic awareness & activism if it can be called that - that comes from a very different place. I might accept that as a serious argument if it was also applied to all ethnic groups. Ball is in your court to say if you believe that BLM and all that is driven by personal inadequacies.

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and what are examples for a "left wing male" that could be used for a similar video.

As I said previously, you can see the moment he even catches himself when he realises that his left wing audience is composed of the young and the angry. He then defends their anger as righteous. But for fun:

Ugly young loser men of lesser ability and low sexual desirability who can't compete in a capitalist world, or a free sexual market seek to bring down the system, in fact all hierarchies rather than try to improve themselves or accept a position they actually deserve and are capable of.

They are driven by anger, envy and hatred at those who are better than them, though they lie to themselves and believe such superiority must have been gained unfairly. They hate being judged more than anything else, because they know they fare poorly.

Their inadequacy and anger, coupled with porn and anime addiction twists them into all kinds of sexual degeneracy. Unlike incels who turn to the Right and older forms of marriage culture, Left wing incels believe their sexual frustrations will be solved by making humans, women in particular, embrace the sexual morality of Bonobo monkeys.

They are often drawn into the more radical sects at university where student organisations groom them. They all end up fighting social conservatism and religion and fight for every sexual freedom and orientation in the hopes that one day it will be legal to do what they all secretly wish to do and see LGBT gain an extra P. OMG how can we deradicalise these misguided young men guise?

I don't really believe that, though I have mixed strands of truth with obnoxious armchair psychology designed to provoke. That's the left wing equivalent of this video. The whole thing is ad hominem dressed up as care and concern.

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29 Jul 2021, 1:04 pm

slam_thunderhide wrote:

In related news ...

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White liberals more likely to have a mental health condition

https://www.washingtontimes.com/news/20 ... alth-cond/

By Kelly Sadler - The Washington Times - Thursday, April 22, 2021
ANALYSIS/OPINION:

White liberals are more prone to mental health disorders than individuals who identify as conservative or moderates, according to a Pew Research Center survey.

Sixty-two percent of Whites who classify themselves as “very liberal” or “liberal” have been told by a doctor they have a mental health condition, as compared to 26% of conservatives and 20% of moderates, the study found.

After the Trump years and his replacement with a bloke who is barely left of centre, I'm not surprised if the left wingers are still feeling rather depressed and wound up.

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29 Jul 2021, 1:06 pm

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Well I chugged through the video. There's a lot there. He weaves together many different strands of internet reaction: incels, the gender wars and ethnic tension into a singular "Right wing male" persona that can be psychoanalysed and alternately vilified, mocked and pitied. There's much to be said about any given thread, but not much about the whole thesis. He oversimplifies some things, simultaneously overcomplicates others and makes links that are flimsy at best. Even he appeared to realise towards the end (when he talks about anger - it's fine and good - as long as it leads you down the left road rather than the right), that you could make an extremely similar video about the "left wing male" and it would be just as valid.

Example. What were one of the flimsy links, and what are examples for a "left wing male" that could be used for a similar video.

This video isn't specifically about left wing people, but it's about toxic people of both genders and all belief systems.

There's no excuse for anyone behaving in a toxic or abusive manner regardless of their sex, their ideology, or their ability to disempower others with virtue signalling.

I love this video because it speaks to many of the core issues affecting society today.

If the link is unavailable, search Dr Ramani Virtue Signalling on YouTube.

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29 Jul 2021, 1:09 pm

slam_thunderhide wrote:

In related news ...

Quote:

White liberals more likely to have a mental health condition

https://www.washingtontimes.com/news/20 ... alth-cond/

By Kelly Sadler - The Washington Times - Thursday, April 22, 2021
ANALYSIS/OPINION:

White liberals are more prone to mental health disorders than individuals who identify as conservative or moderates, according to a Pew Research Center survey.

Sixty-two percent of Whites who classify themselves as “very liberal” or “liberal” have been told by a doctor they have a mental health condition, as compared to 26% of conservatives and 20% of moderates, the study found.

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Mr. Goldberg speculated the disparity may be because White liberals were more likely to seek mental health evaluations than other ideologies. This could be a simple, and true, answer.

Could be.

When I saw the title my guess was that liberals are more likely to feel for people around them and that is what the article concludes too, but I disagree that it shows a lack of resilience.

It shows compassion.

Yes I saw the point where some responded that they thought bad news was worse than it really was such as the number of deaths of black people due to police brutality, but I know very conservative people who revel in bad news too, isn't that what most news media is gauged towards - the enjoyment of outrage. I see it in both left and right wing media. It's very difficult to find straight reporting of the facts with no bias

What we need is something in the middle. Too many people don't care about others and think, "I'm ok Jack." They like the status quo and ignore people suffering if it doesn't affect them or they pretend they themselves aren't suffering to toe the line and uphold a lie of "this is all hunky dory". A lot of people need more compassion and to not dismiss it as fluffy snowflake stuff.

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29 Jul 2021, 3:45 pm

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They're sad because only right-wing women will date them - and right wing women are not "easy."

A self-defeating machismo indeed.

Right wing women are not easy? I thought it was the left wing women who were not easy, or at least people complain about how difficult they are, since left wing means more feminism, which means more difficult, unless I missed something?

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29 Jul 2021, 3:49 pm

/\Easy as in free with their sexuality.
Since many are devout fundie Christian, no hanky panky.

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29 Jul 2021, 3:50 pm

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devout fundie Christian, no hanky panky.

For everyone else! :jester:

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I can only compare left wing Vancouver with Right Wing Calgary.

I dont know about easy to bed, but the Women in Calgary are much more approachable.

Of course this may have nothing to do with left and right.

btw I find Calgarians very sweet people in general, for the most part they dont take their conservative heritage to ugly extremes, but rather make Calgary a fine place to live .

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29 Jul 2021, 3:51 pm

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/\Easy as in free with their sexuality.
Since many are devout fundie Christian, no hanky panky.

Oh I see, but I guess the answer would be just go for women who are more sexually free?

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29 Jul 2021, 4:00 pm

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/\Easy as in free with their sexuality.
Since many are devout fundie Christian, no hanky panky.

Yeah, but red states typically have much higher rates of teen pregnancy, so....

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29 Jul 2021, 4:03 pm

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Misslizard wrote:

/\Easy as in free with their sexuality.
Since many are devout fundie Christian, no hanky panky.

Yeah, but red states typically have much higher rates of teen pregnancy, so....

They don’t believe in abortion.
Blue state mom takes her teen to a clinic.
Red state mom makes daughter give birth.

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29 Jul 2021, 4:05 pm

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Misslizard wrote:

/\Easy as in free with their sexuality.
Since many are devout fundie Christian, no hanky panky.

Oh I see, but I guess the answer would be just go for women who are more sexually free?

It would be best if you let them go for you.

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29 Jul 2021, 4:21 pm

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Well I chugged through the video. There's a lot there. He weaves together many different strands of internet reaction: incels, the gender wars and ethnic tension into a singular "Right wing male" persona that can be psychoanalysed and alternately vilified, mocked and pitied. There's much to be said about any given thread, but not much about the whole thesis. He oversimplifies some things, simultaneously overcomplicates others and makes links that are flimsy at best. Even he appeared to realise towards the end (when he talks about anger - it's fine and good - as long as it leads you down the left road rather than the right), that you could make an extremely similar video about the "left wing male" and it would be just as valid.

I definitely agree that what he presents is a huge over-simplification.

A lot of your mirror version isn't entirely disagreeable for describing the equivalent sort of basement dwelling angry ideologue on the left.

Although I would suggest that the only folks who want to normalize the P are folks who don't respect the value of agency and consent when it comes to partners and those folks don't seem to be part of the pro-sex left. The left won't shut-up about consent, but righties seem to have a lot of traditionalists who devalue the idea of women needing to consent, if they don't care about consent in the first place why would they care about partners not being old enough to consent?

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