Sanjay Gupta admits lies surrounding horse dewormer

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Well I'm sorry they didn't get the life saving treatments available. Did they die with covid? Or from it? I heard of a couple of people dying from covid. A family friend's brother had covid bad last year and didn't mention this when he went for his jab. He is now in a coma and brain dead. I know people who died cause of lockdown and numerous people who have not been right since their second jab. I know numerous people who have taken Ivermectin and they are fine.

I can't login to your site. But I remember there has been like 80 deaths from Ivermectin in a few decades.

VAERS is the adverse reaction system in the US. It's a federal crime to out false information in. The EU system has picked up well over 20,000 deaths. Maddie De Garay a 12 year old girl who was in the Pfizer trial is now paralyzed in a wheelchair and has a feeding tube. Her parents were told anxiety caused it.

If he's attacking a man of medical expertise like Dr. Gupta, then yes, I am attacking the former Mr. Katy Perry.

Every drug has potential side effects. At least we have decades of data on it. If you're worried about side effects then I'm guessing you are very worried about the amount of deaths and adverse reactions from a technology never used on humans before that didn't go through normal procedures?

So there’s an animal application and human application for ivermectin. What separates the two? A lot, as it turns out. An ivermectin dose for horses can be as high as 1,200 milligrams, according to Scott Phillips of the Washington Poison Center in Seattle. “It’s really the dose that makes the poison,” says Phillips — even too much tap water or salt can be poisonous.

With those considerations in mind, consider how CNN framed Rogan’s use of ivermectin.

*On Sept. 1, CNN host Erin Burnett said: “Controversial podcast host Joe Rogan, who’s railed against vaccine requirements, says he has covid and took a drug intended for livestock.” She articulated similar descriptions two additional times before interviewing a doctor and noting that the drug is prescribed for people as well.

*The same day, CNN host Anderson Cooper said, “One of those drugs he mentioned, ivermectin, is something more often used to deworm horses.” On that same show, CNN chief media correspondent Brian Stelter said, “When you have a horse deworming medication that’s discouraged by the government that actually causes some people in this crazy environment we’re in to actually want to try it. That’s the upside down where we’re in with figures like Joe Rogan.” Leana S. Wen — also a Post contributing columnist — later added the critical context that the drug “is used in humans for things like parasites and scabies.”

*Also that day, host Don Lemon said, “The United States is now averaging 160,455 new covid-19 cases every day, including controversial podcast host Joe Rogan saying that he tested positive for covid and that he says he is taking several medications including a drug meant for deworming livestock.”

*On Sept. 3, CNN political commentator Bakari Sellers said, “I think the unfortunate part about all of this is you have individuals like Joe Rogan, for example, who don’t want to take an experimental vaccine but will take horse dewormer.”

*And on Sept. 4, anchor Jim Acosta played Rogan’s disclosure video and said, “In case you missed it, Rogan said ivermectin. Yes, that’s the deworming medicine made to kill parasites in farm animals and, weirdly, is being promoted by right-wing media figures and even some politicians as a covid treatment.”

There’s a reason for reciting these transcripts. They turn up a consistent formulation from multiple CNN voices that surely wasn’t a sober recitation of the facts. By highlighting that ivermectin is a horse dewormer, and downplaying that ivermectin has important uses for people, CNN facilitates a certain assumption among its viewers. Namely, that Rogan had been haunting the aisles of Tractor Supply.

After hearing Rogan’s concerns about how CNN cast the issue, Gupta said, “They shouldn’t have said that.”

Yet CNN’s statement sounds more like the work of an advocacy group than a journalism outfit. The “issue,” actually, begins and ends with the integrity of CNN’s content. If we take Rogan’s prescription claim at face value — and CNN hasn’t challenged it — then the network’s coverage was slanted in some cases and straight-up incorrect in others. “[I]f you’re prescribed the FDA human version [of ivermectin] then you’re not taking a horse pill,” notes Phillips in an email.

So in this instance, you don’t have to endorse Rogan to abhor CNN’s coverage of this topic. Here’s a network, after all, that prides itself on impeccable factual hygiene, a place where there’s no conceptual hair too fine to split, no political statement too sprawling to flyspeck. It’s tough living by your own standards. If CNN wants to describe ivermectin in a way that doesn’t slime the people who take it, the Guardian provides a fine template: “a drug used against parasites in humans and livestock.”

That was another fake story pushed by a doctor that was no longer at the hospital which the hospital had to come out and debunk. Best not to rely on mainstream/corporate media which is funded by big pharma. Ivermectin is one of the safest drugs around. If you're worried about people dying from drugs try worrying about the 16,000 + Americans that have died from the covid jabs noted on the VAERS system.

Do you know someone personally who died from an overdose of Ivermectin? Can you elaborate?

And...Returning to the original positioning of the goal-posts:
Where did anyone claim that he was an expert?

Please be specific, as I don't recall seeing any such claim made - I would like to make sure I'm not imagining that nobody made such a claim...

As to the issue that Mr Rogan and Mr Gupta were discussing: It was about how a human medication that Mr Rogan was taking was being presented as a livestock medication by Mr Gupta's employer, for which Mr Gupta is the "Chief Medical Correspondant, and so should both be aware that these are different products, and that therefore CNN was both knowingly providing misinformation, and also potentially defaming Mr Rogan.

The point of contention was in regards to the difference between saying someone is "taking a substance that is more commonly found in livestock medication" (which wouldn't have been an issue), as opposed to saying someone is "taking livestock medication" (which was what CNN was presenting)...A subtle, but important difference.

Haven’t heard the Jesus one.LOL
If he could turn water into wine I’m sure he could correct altered DNA.

"Given that a prominent CNN personality agreed with a strong critique of his own colleagues, we placed the matter before the network’s PR department. They issued this statement:

[The heart of this debate has been purposely confused and ultimately lost. It’s never been about livestock versus human dosage of Ivermectin. The issue is that a powerful voice in the media, who by example and through his platform, sowed doubt in the proven and approved science of vaccines while promoting the use of an unproven treatment for covid-19 — a drug developed to ward off parasites in farm animals. The only thing CNN did wrong here was bruise the ego of a popular podcaster who pushed dangerous conspiracy theories and risked the lives of millions of people in doing so.]


"That’s quite the statement, and it makes some good points. Though ivermectin is used for scabies and river blindness and the like, the Food and Drug Administration advises against its use for covid, saying that existing data “do not show ivermectin is effective against COVID-19.” Doctors have been prescribing it for covid in any case, and some people have sought the drug from veterinary suppliers. “As long as the drug is approved for some humans, it seems to me irrelevant that it’s approved for animals, except that this is the way that people have gone about procuring the drug and in so doing have put themselves at risk,” says Peter Lurie, president of the Center for Science in the Public Interest and a former FDA associate commissioner. The FDA tweeted:

"You are not a horse. You are not a cow; seriously y'all. Stop it."

"CNN is also right that Rogan has made dismissive remarks about coronavirus vaccines.
And touting ivermectin as a response to covid is incredibly irresponsible."

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Nope, The Opinion Writer for the
Washington Post DID NOT SAY
CNN LIED ABOUT ROGAN TAKING

A DRUG NOT AUTHORIZED FOR USE
TO TREAT COVID-19; Only that the
Coverage Was Slanted And Incorrect in part.

From the Article in Question:



https://www.washingtonpost.com/opinions/2021/10/21/joe-rogan-cnn-ivermectin-statement-gupta/

^^^

Nope, The Opinion Writer for the
Washington Post DID NOT SAY
CNN LIED ABOUT ROGAN TAKING

A DRUG NOT AUTHORIZED FOR USE
TO TREAT COVID-19; Only that the
Coverage Was Slanted And Incorrect in part.

The former Mr. Katy Perry feels he's qualified enough to attack Dr. Gupta, so that in itself implies he's some sort of authority on the subject.

^^^
I'm still sticking with my criticism of the former Mr. Katy Perry. So there: Thpppttt (Me sticking my tongue out and making that noise).