Gods Laws Do Work.
What you sow you will reap.
I have seen this work so many times in my life and in the lives of others around me in both good and bad ways. The law stands. It does not change.
Love others and you will be loved. You may not be loved by the same ones you showed love to.
I won't say how I know that these laws work because that would be boasting. But supposing you decided to give a random stranger in need something good. I have seen these blessings come back in unexpected ways. Ways that make one startled by how good God is!
I have seen these laws work the same way for those who hate and steal. They have things stolen from them, or they suddenly face unreasonal bills they can't afford. They have random strangers treat them badly. I have seen this! And why? What you sow you will reap!
To change is easy. Start giving and loving others and watch how love comes back to you! I know this works. I have seen it! I have done it and watched it happen!
Ad these simple laws work on a spiritual way. What do I mean? Example of how they do not work. Where I live, Freemasons have a miss interpreted way of how Gods laws of sowing and reaping work. I have had masonic members give me something to get something they want that I have. Now there is nothing wrong with a swap. Swapping something for something else. But this is different. They work in a humanistic way so if they give something, they expect you to return the favour back. God is not involved. I am not a freemason so I do not work in the same ways, and I also don't get hints so I apologize to masonic members who in the past gave expecting a return and I want to encourage them to use Gods ways instead.
Now Gods ways are not the same. They are different. You do not give to recieve from the individual you gave the item to. You give and God gives you back something so much better and from people you did not expect and sometimes people you did not even know. They work spiritually to bless one physically as Gods laws work in miraculous ways!
The laws of sowing and reaping work on many different levels too. From physical things to how one treats others. They even work spiritually. Give time to God and He will give time to YOU!
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My brother-in-law is a mason. I think you'll find they are not unlike me or you in terms of their propensity to give in to their human nature for transactional relationships that probably have little to do with their spiritual beliefs.
I think one of the early pioneers of what was to become the masons was a philosopher named Plutarch. He believed all humans were prone to transactional relationships. According to Plutarch only dolphins were exempt.
“...To the Dolphin alone, beyond all other, nature has granted what the best philosophers seek: friendship for no advantage”
My brother-in-law is a mason. I think you'll find they are not unlike me or you in terms of their propensity to give in to their human nature for transactional relationships that probably have little to do with their spiritual beliefs.
It could just be the local groups who live near me. Several of my neighbours are involved in the masonic lodge as I live in a wealthy area. We stand out a little as we are not wealthy. We all get on with each other and I would not swop my neighbours foe anyone else, as they are a blessing..
I noticed how masons I knew would give me things and become frustrated. It took me ages to work out what they wanted as they work by hints. I found there was always strings attached in their giving. They wanted something in return.
I have been brought up using Gods methods which are different from this and they are amazing!
It is actually fun to give to random strangers or people in need, and amazing to recieve back from other strangers or have other miriacles take place.
In the past I knew nothing at all about freemasonary, but as the masonic lodge started to infultrate some churches I found there was differences between the beliefs of Masons and those who were not, and churches that have had masonic leadership tended to go astray from the Word of God when it came to the principal fundamental beliefs and spiritual concepts.
It is why many housegroups and housechurches were started as the conventional churches had changed direction.
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I noticed how they would give me things and become frustrated. It took me ages to work out what they wanted as they work by hints. I found there was always strings attached in their giving. They wanted something in return.
I have been brought up using Gods methods which are different from this and they are amazing!
It is actually fun to give to random strangers or people in need, and amazing to recieve back from other strangers or have other miriacles take place.
The hardest thing for us as humans is to act selflessly (I think that was what Plutarch was alluding to). If you have experienced joy in acting selflessly and it brings you joy then you have achieved a great thing for humanity.
I noticed how they would give me things and become frustrated. It took me ages to work out what they wanted as they work by hints. I found there was always strings attached in their giving. They wanted something in return.
I have been brought up using Gods methods which are different from this and they are amazing!
It is actually fun to give to random strangers or people in need, and amazing to recieve back from other strangers or have other miriacles take place.
The hardest thing for us as humans is to act selflessly (I think that was what Plutarch was alluding to). If you have experienced joy in acting selflessly and it brings you joy then you have achieved a great thing for humanity.
I will have to give you an example from the past.
I gave the odd bicycle I had done up to someone who needed one. Then I had a phonecall from a friend who told me to go down to a certain bicycle shop as there was a sale on. I went down to the shop, and a bicycle that was in the £800 to £900 price bracket (And that price was a couple of hundred cheaper than their competitors) came down in a clearance sale for £360.
I bought it and enjoyed it for several years and sold it in excellent condition to a bicycle shop for £175 as I needed money to keep my car on the road. (I have other bikes).
But had I not given I would not have recieved such a blessing. And I did not have much money, but I could afford £360, and to me it was a miracle. I have never seen new bikes sold so cheap. That was around 75% off and it was a genuine amount. Trade price for staff is usually anything from 10% to maybe 25 or 30% off.
What I mean by genuine sale price is some of these shops double the price of a new bike which is the same as another bike but has a different colour somewhere to make it different, and later halve it and claim it is a half price sale. This was not that. This was genuine.
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Yes this way of thinking is familiar to me. I knew a girl many years ago who followed what I would call a positive psychology framework in "paying it forward" and similar frames such as "if you believe it will happen".
Infact I think they even made a movie called "Pay it forward" around the time I knew her in 2000 starring Kevin Spacey.
The basic premise is the universe follows the law of karma. If you give then you shall receive.
You know it works. It is like other laws that work such as gravity etc. Gravity is a good one because it is an unseen force.
My take on gravity is different to others, but it is still an unseen force. We see and feel the effects of it.
Gods laws work in the same way even if we do not believe in God. They still work and do the same thing.
I can't explain it without God as I would not know where to begin! Explaining with God is easy. Goed does it!
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Now, If We Didn't Have Any
Words, WHere Will God Be?
Remember, Human Words
Both Spoken And Written
Haven't Always Existed...
If The Answer
Isn't
Feeling Doing
Love, God Doesn't Breathe
Now Either... It's Really Not Rocket
Science or Words... It's Really The Feel
And Do
If God
Is Love...
i Don't Have to
Ask A Bonobo in
The Wild... All i Have
To Feel And Do Is What They Feel And Do too...
Inhaling Peace Exhaling LoVE iN JoY oF LiGHT...
No Words
Either
Spoken
Or Written Needed At All...
Most Every Environmentally Well Adjusted Healthy
Hairy Bonobo Feels And Does THiS, EVeN Me NoW...
-Just Another
Hairy 'Wookiee' True
iN A Way oF LoVinG LiGHT...
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This means that the word came before there was life, be it human or other kind that was created.
There are three great conundrums
1. The nature of matter/universe
2. The purpose of human life
3. The existence of consciousness
If you know 3. then you can go backward to 1.
MG, I see you as one of the truly blessed people in this world who has a strong connection with the divine. I was thinking about this today, also because of my Quaker meeting, in which some people stand out in their words, divinely inspired. And aghogday, who touches the divine through dance and poetry.
I have an experiential connection with the divine, as per my own inner and external experiences, but not nearly as much as some. My life is better when I am nearer to people like MG and aghogday.
This drew me down the road to reincarnation. Maybe there is actual reincarnation, sort of like Groundhog Day, and we have to do life over and over again until we get it right.
And to bring it back to the OP, one of the things I feel certain is divinely inspired, or per God's words and/or the Bible as MG is saying, is boundless giving to others.
Somewhere, I have a newspaper article about a man who worked tirelessly to keep prisoners on death row from being executed. He lived in a small apartment with almost no furniture. He lived on very little money. When asked why did he do this, he answered that when he does he "feels the pleasure of God."
I know there are people on this forum who believe this is all rubbish, and this is not posted for you. It is posted for MG, and others who consider what is beyond our knowledge and understanding. How to move beyond the transactional relationships. How to be more loving and kind with each other.
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And sky is the refrain - Gordon Lightfoot
This means that the word came before there was life, be it human or other kind that was created.
Hmm, the Old TradeMark Bible is Basically A Mix And Match Book of Scripts; Written,
Edited, And Revised By Innumerable Ghost Authors; And Copy Scribes, Penning Each
Word, True there Were No Xerox Machines, Which Lends Almost Unlimited
Room For
Copy Mistakes
And Intentional Changes
Through Centuries of Effort;
And Oh Yeah, Someone Can And
Will Fall On Their Head And Awaken
With Visions Like Saul the Paul And Call That
Gospel Truth From A Man He Names God as Well
For Better of Love
Or Worse For
Non-Forgiving
Merciless Changing
Loyal Sheep Who No Longer
Feed the Poor into Metaphors
of Goats too and Burning them
Forever Eternally in Torture For
They Didn't Follow The Do Gooder Rules...
And Then There Are So Many Horrifying Celebrations
of Violence And Rape All the Way to A Joy of Dashing the
Opposing Tribe's Children's
Heads With Rocks
To Kill Them Dead;
And It's True, Humans Do Have
This Real Potential of Bringing Killing Nightmares
OR Life is Good Dreams to Fruition too; It is A Fairly
Accurate Description of Human Nature; Yet A So-Called
Good Book of All Forgiving Merciful Love in Two Words,
LITERALLY,
HELL NO; NOPE,
Despite All The Shortcomings
oF Life is Good of This Old Bible
Book Full of Nightmares And Fantasies
Of Nightmares Both Brought to Fruition and
Remaining After Death Fantasies too; Your Opening
Statement OP on the 'So-Called Laws Of God' that Only Really
Reflects The Beatitudes and The Compassion of Buddha in Golden
Rules that Are Nice; Yet Also So Limited As You As An Introvert or Your Language
Of Love May Be Vastly Different Than Someone Very Extroverted And Open Minded So
Ya Just Can't Expect
To Do to Them
As You Would Like
To Be Treated And
Not Potentially Fail
Miserably in Making
Their Life Living HeLL ON EartH too...
Humans Indeed Are Ruled By Stories, Otherwise,
Known As Our Languages, Our Cultures, Our Politics,
Our Religions, All the Rarified Abstract Constructs of
Words We Hold As Holy And Sacred; And All the Ideologies
And Symbols We Come to Co-Create And Bond and Bind Over
We Hold Near And Dear As Meaning And Purpose in Life to Get By
And Survive;
And Maybe
Even Thrive
In LiFE IS Good Life;
Yet Per the Opening Paragraphs
You Present, Humans Are Evolved Best
to LiVE iN Cooperation And Altruism to Get
Along When Living in Balance With the Rest of
Nature We Come to Understand And That Evolved
In Our Natural Way of Being, Bonobos Do Share to A
Great Degree With Us...
No, It Doesn't Need
Any Words to Exist;
Particularly Ancient Text
Used to Subjugate, Control,
And Master Other Human Beings
For Status, Power, And Material Gains...
I'm Always Amused When i Visit the Catholic Church,
When they Hold An Old Book With All the Horrible 'Rapey'
And Violent Supported Behaviors In Their Hands Up to the Sky...
Amused Truly
In Not Such A Good
Way; Yet A Good Way
Too as There Are A Few
Lines That Do Reflect the
Best Parts of Human Nature
As Altruistically Naturally Evolved...
Yet No, The Book Isn't Necessary, Unless
One Is Trying to Develop A Common Story
For A Society to Bond and Bind Over In Some
Kind of Control of the Masses oF All of CuLTuRE;
If God iS A Word
And Only Words
From One Antiquated
Book That Surely is A Much
Smaller God That All of Nature
Perceived And Not Perceived by
Humans, i For One Identify So Much
More Beyond All Words of Such A Tiny Little Antiquated Dust Covered Book/God/Man
That Sadly Folks Have Rarified And Constructed into Basically An Idol of the Essence
Of Such
A Much
Larger Force
Than Words Indeed;
Like Genesis, Chapter 1, Verse 1
That Describes Formless Dark Through
Light in Verse 2; True, 'God' Doesn't Even
Talk About Words
According
To that Book
Until Genesis Chapter 1:3;
So Sure, Even Steven Hawking,
Tesla, And Walt Whitman All if
ALiVE MiGHT Agree Light Comes
From Dark Then Dance Then Song
Existence is Vibrations, Frequencies
And Energy All at Essence iNDeed;
And Sure, One Might USE A Metaphor
That On 'The 8th Day' Humans Created
Free Verse Poetry And Both Whitman And
The Nature of God All Within Him SaW ALL
That aS A VEry Good Creation iNdeed Too Now;
Hey Dude, if Ya Wanna Believe God iS A Word
i Really Can't Literally Refute Your Point; For It's
True Some Folks
Are Mostly Left
Brain, Black and
White, More Literal Like
That; And Others Tend to
Feel and Sense A God Much
Larger in Right Brain Holistic Ways of Mystically Seeing
All of Existence; Yes, So much More Than Some So-Called Word God...
Always As Neuroscience Shows Human Beings Basically Hallucinate Their
Reality As We Co-Create It, Based On Our Hallucinations of Our Experiences In The Past...
And Again, Science Already Shows That Our Altruistic Cooperation is What Mainly Brings our
Success
In Whatever
Survival And Thrive We Do Next..
And The Nicer And Not So Dammed
Naughty Part of Matthew in the Beatitudes
Does A Pretty
Good Job
Of Describing
Our Better Half
Of A WHole of Human Nature...
Only Men God's in Three Parts
And God's As Small As Only Using
Words; No Thanks, My God is Existence Whole
Yet Others May Choose Other Smaller Venn
Diagrams my God Swallows Whole So Much
More That the Long Form Poem EPiC Bible
Poem i Write Closing in on 10 MiLLioN Words
In 100 Months of Effort on 12.18.2021; ALong
With 15,833 Miles of Public Dance Now in 99 Months;
Yet Of Course, if Ya Wanna Go 'Buy' That Old Antiquated
Book of Mostly Old Testament
Hebrew That Lacks Originally;
Even Any "SonG oF SoUL" Limited
to Consonants And Written Then in
Rudimentary Ancient Greek By
New Testament Older Ways;
Go Ahead; Yet Do Realize That
my God oF All Naturally Swallows
That Small Word God Whole With So much room to Spare;
In Fact, What i've Done in Close to 100 Months Is more than
12 Times The Effort of that Centuries Led Innumerable Ghost Author And
Copy Scribe Way of Penning That Rather Minuscule Endeavor Down; Yet of Course,
If Ya Literally
Believe Both
John 1:1 AND
John 14:12,
That Second
Verse of Two Does
Give me Full Authority
to Write A Bible 12 Times
And More Larger By Note
of Greater Works Than Jesus Yet
Unlike John Lennon Though, i Am Basically An Unknown hehe..
At Least By Born On Date Name; Yet Again, Don't Forget The Meek
Do Still Inherit The
Earth And
Don't Tend
to Get Shot
So Much in Public,
By Folks Who Come
To See Life As Even
A Bigger Hallucination
Than Most Folks Already Create...
And The Truth is Fame And Fortune Already
Really Removes Basic Human Freedoms A to Z And More...
Yawn...
Pass the Popcorn
'Eve', This Bible Writing
Business is Really A Breeze
With iPhones, And iMacs And
The World Wide Web of Beautiful
Real Female Angels For Bible Writing Muse Globe Wide...
Indeed Now Such A Beautiful Way Prepared By All Indeed...
God Dam, A Book Written Before By All Dudes in Consonants
Such
An
Earthly
Dammed Bore...
Centuries Before;
Just in My Own
Personal Holy
Dance And Sacred Song For Real Opinion oN COuRSE
Of COuRSE, Still Inhaling Peace, Exhaling LoVE iN
Joy to All Existence oF LiGHT Now; God Yes,
Marrying the
Night
Merrying
The Day Same As Night
DarK Thru LiGHT For Real Now
i Will Go On Basically Forever, Yes
Now, Without Ever Having to Imagine
What's It's Like to Be A Real Fractal of the Whole...
And On Top of that TaKinG 'God' in Vain Originally
Means Naming
God Any
Name At
All For True
All Forms that
Attempt to Reflect
Larger Essences Usually
End Up As Rarified Constructs
Of Golden Calf Words and Other Ideologies/Symbols too...
And Sure, Other Men And Other Words Promoted to Only Gods too...
And Sure Dude, If Ya Wanna Go With The Old Small Word God, You Are Surely
Welcome
To A Venn
Diagram
oF All of
Existence As Small As
A God Dammed Human Created Word
That is Such A Petty Little God it Can't
Figure Out How to Modernize/Rehabilitate ITs Creations;
Instead, of Just Throwing Them Away Forever in Torture...
Yuck,
Same
Old God
That Dashes
Tribe's Children's
Heads Against Rocks in Exaltation
In Only Joy to The Death of the Innocents Again...
Human Condition All Reflected in Fruition of Nightmares And Dreams Still...
Yep, The Old Bible And the Human Condition is Truly Full Of All of 'That' For Real Still...
How Ya
Gonna
Fault
The Real
Bad News
And Good News
And the Tween
of Humanity For Real...
Thanks For the Popcorn 'Eve';
Have A Nice Day In Heaven or
Hell or the Tween of What You May Create Now True...
Choose Your 'Matrix'; Blue, Red, Or Green Pill Way of Life As You Wilt...
Yet Don't Forget, THere Is Still 'Color Blind' Truth And 'TecHNiColor' On 'Big Screen Lies'...
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