Why is Germany allied to Russia?
Germany refuse to send military aid to Ukraine, during the Russian aggression against Ukraine.
They even have a chief of the navy who sympathizes with Putin!
https://www.bbc.com/news/world-europe-60099924
What's next? When Russia invades Ukraine, Germany would likely block French and British military aid.
Is this evidence that Germany is allied to Russia?
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I think that's too black-or-white - either an enemy or an ally.
I think Germany does not want to definitely choose any side for now. They are tied both to the West and to Russia and probably hope for a diplomatic solution.
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I think Germany does not want to definitely choose any side for now. They are tied both to the West and to Russia and probably hope for a diplomatic solution.
Anyone who believes there will be a diplomatic solution is living in a dream world fantasy universe.
There are some facts:
1. Putin is a very bad guy.
2. Therefore Putin is willing to sacrifice half of his population trying to conquer Europe.
3. This is just a game for Putin. WW3 is just like a political simulation game to him. He's evidently a psychopath.
4. Negotiating with psychopaths NEVER turns into anything good.
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WW3 is not a simulation game for Putin. He's a psychopath but not a fool. He's aware of consequences of an open armed confrontation with NATO - and that he would lose in this case.
If he starts a war, he'll do a lot to keep it small, like in Georgia and East Ukraine. He can win a small war but not WW3 and he knows it.
For all the decades of the Cold War, things were like that... and the major confrontation didn't happen.
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I think during the Cold War Russia had a very stable economy. And actually many older Russians became quite familiar with that lifestyle . Even prospering. People lean towards what was familiar. Russia controlled the entire USSR , And I believe he , Puin wants that back . Russia controls large natural gas reserves and has created a pipeline into many European Countries and they have become reliant on it . Perhaps some how Germany has benefitted from
That business from Russia? Besides the USA still maintains military bases inside of Germany.
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They even have a chief of the navy who sympathizes with Putin!
https://www.bbc.com/news/world-europe-60099924
What's next? When Russia invades Ukraine, Germany would likely block French and British military aid.
Is this evidence that Germany is allied to Russia?
Because Germany is scared s**tless that Russia will turn off their natural gas!
No. Its more the other way around. Its Russia that is afraid of Germany because Germany almost conquered them twice in the Twentieth Century, and that is part of why Putin wants to own the Ukraine again... to help defend Russia against invasions from the west.
Crime , we already watch the US and NATO do nothing while Putin already took over the nicer parts of the Country,
Putin already has Crimea . During that period of time supposably Bidens,son Hunter was negotiating, whether or not the USA would help Ukraine , meanwhile because of business interests of Hunter, He did not get what he wanted , so
Meanwhile Russia took over a big part of their Country. Now suddenly, years afterwards we are sending troops to Ukraine ,
What has changed?
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They even have a chief of the navy who sympathizes with Putin!
https://www.bbc.com/news/world-europe-60099924
What's next? When Russia invades Ukraine, Germany would likely block French and British military aid.
Is this evidence that Germany is allied to Russia?
Because Germany is scared s**tless that Russia will turn off their natural gas!
Absolutely correct. You win a Kewpie Doll!
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That business from Russia? Besides the USA still maintains military bases inside of Germany.
Yes, the main goal of Putin is to rebuild the position of Russia as an empire controlling a significant part of the world.
For historical and cultural reasons, East Slavic nations like Ukrainians and Belarussians are of particular interest to keep them under "Mother Russia".
So, Ukrainian pro-Western tendencies and their talks about joining EU and NATO are super irritating to Moscow. "Mother Russia" feels rejected and she doesn't take it well
BTW, "Mother Russia" is another concept made of pure propaganda. Kiev was a capital of a Russian-speaking state when what now is Moscow was just a steppe inhabited by nomads.
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Lest it be forgotten, while Russia had prospered as the head of the Soviet Union, it had been often at Ukraine's expense. The Ukrainian people have not forgotten Stalin's man made famines which had starved millions of their people to death, or how their country had been poisoned by the Chernobyl nuclear disaster. In both cases, Moscow had tried to hide such horrors from the rest of the world. If I was a citizen of Ukraine, I'd be gun shy about reuniting with Mother Russia.
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They even have a chief of the navy who sympathizes with Putin!
https://www.bbc.com/news/world-europe-60099924
What's next? When Russia invades Ukraine, Germany would likely block French and British military aid.
Is this evidence that Germany is allied to Russia?
Because Germany is scared s**tless that Russia will turn off their natural gas!
In other words: Germany is a coward amongst the NATO members.
Why trust them?
An example of cowardice is the country Burkina Faso:
First, Russia starts a civil war, which France cannot stop.
After the recent military coup, installing a pro-Russian government, Russia will stop the civil war.
The blame is now on France for "not being peace-keeping" and the credit goes to Russia for "making peace".
But it was Russia/Putin who started the civil war in Burkina Faso.
The blame can be no other country than Russia.
The rule is to ALWAYS look at who's benefitting from what:
If Russia benefits from a civil war, it is Scientific Evidence that it was Russia which started it in the first place.
In the case of German refusal to send military aid to Ukraine, Germany is benefitting from Russian gas.
Therefore Germany is allied to Russia.
Countries behave very weird, when trying to influence Countries, Germany may like Russian Gas business .
And whether that influences their decision or not could be a matter of corporate interaction.
But back to the USA involvement in Germany in WW2 doing business with them , Corporations selling Germans during the War , railroad track rails , that were used to build railroad into Dachau ?
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Putin is too smart (from what I can tell) to risk a full-scale war with NATO. Putin wants Russia to reclaim its place as a superpower that can compete with the US and China. A major land war in Europe would be a major waste of Russian money and lives and Putin knows it. Putin knows that nothing would please China more than seeing Russia and NATO wear each other down while China saves it's strength.
Putin will wait for an excuse casus belli or provoke the other side into acting first like he did with Georgia. It's all salami tactics. Take just a little bit at a time. No big wars, only small ones.
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