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29 Jan 2022, 9:06 am

This is what real homeless people look like & why they are the way they are.

Often, it is because of abusive upbringings, or encountering abusive parent figures when an individual leaves home. It takes its toll on the psyche of homeless folk.

Homeless folk do not do anything on purpose, or to spite you or your way of life. They are not lacking in effort.

This is all myth from capitalist slave drivers.



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29 Jan 2022, 10:19 am

Most of the time for the long term homeless there is an underlying mental health condition as opposed to capitalism.

Even the very poor, unemployed or disabled can get some sort of accommodation even if it’s a simple damp room somewhere.

Lived in a few myself.

Many long term homeless though have been in care, been abused before or during in care.

Many have schizophrenia or are on the ASD spectrum with a very low self worth.

Sad situation


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29 Jan 2022, 12:18 pm

Homelessness is also caused by greedy landlords who keep raising the rent on you or they raise it by $400. I don't blame it on rich people moving here, the issue is greed so they raise the rent to get rid of their current tenants so they get rich tenants.

We have over 4000 homeless here. They have RVs and tents. How to help them is give them a vacant lot to stay at and provide them a dumpster and Porta potty. Now residents won't have an eye sore in their neighborhoods.


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31 Jan 2022, 9:56 am

blitzkrieg wrote:
This is what real homeless people look like & why they are the way they are.

Often, it is because of abusive upbringings, or encountering abusive parent figures when an individual leaves home. It takes its toll on the psyche of homeless folk.

Homeless folk do not do anything on purpose, or to spite you or your way of life. They are not lacking in effort.

This is all myth from capitalist slave drivers. . .
Having been a homeless person and having done volunteer work with homeless people, I can honestly say there are people living on the streets who brag about dropping out of society "just to spite them" (whoever "they" are), and who also brag about how little work they do to stay alive.  A lot of other people talk about homelessness from an abstract and academic perspective.  Very few speak from experience and, when we do, we are largely ignored or even ridiculed.

You need to stop letting YouTube do your thinking for you, get out more, and find out what life is REALLY all about.



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31 Jan 2022, 10:55 am

The larger town ( population 13,000) closest to me now has a homeless problem.There wasn’t any before the pandemic, you rarely saw one.I only saw one homeless person there and that was years ago.
Now there’s around 400 and they aren’t from the area.Nobody can figure out where they came from or how they arrived.
The town doesn’t have the facilities to deal with the problem.They broke into the local youth center to get warm, clustering in business parking lots , begging customers for money and going into business and demanding free food and grabbing chips and other items and running off.People are losing customers because people are afraid to get out of their vehicles.
I totally have compassion for people who have become homeless because of job loss or eviction, pity for the mentally ill and addicts ,but the town has no way to address this new problem.
It’s just so bizarre there wasn’t any and now there is.


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31 Jan 2022, 11:02 am

I live in a cold climate.

It's 17 degrees Fahrenheit today.

Tuesday is suppose to be -1 degrees Fahrenheit.

Homeless find shelter or die.

It seems like homelessness is mostly a problem in warm areas.


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31 Jan 2022, 11:10 am

TheRobotLives wrote:
It seems like homelessness is mostly a problem in warm areas.


Toronto isn't a warm area and winter doesn't magically resolve our homeless problem. :?


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31 Jan 2022, 11:16 am

It’s gets cold here also , we will be down in the single digits with snow, ice and one hell of a wind chill.I don’t think the town has enough warming centers for that many people.
About ten years ago a homeless man was found frozen to death in a condemned hotel.


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31 Jan 2022, 11:45 am

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Toronto isn't a warm area and winter doesn't magically resolve our homeless problem. :?

Those are some tough homeless people.


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31 Jan 2022, 11:56 am

TheRobotLives wrote:
funeralxempire wrote:
Toronto isn't a warm area and winter doesn't magically resolve our homeless problem. :?

Those are some tough homeless people.


Indeed, but it's the same sort of tough that everyone here who's survived bullying and social exclusion possesses, which is to say they're tough because they have no other option not because of anything innate.


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31 Jan 2022, 12:10 pm

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Homelessness is also caused by greedy landlords who keep raising the rent on you or they raise it by $400. I don't blame it on rich people moving here, the issue is greed so they raise the rent to get rid of their current tenants so they get rich tenants.

We have over 4000 homeless here. They have RVs and tents. How to help them is give them a vacant lot to stay at and provide them a dumpster and Porta potty. Now residents won't have an eye sore in their neighborhoods.


You know, we say greedy landlords but a landlord should not be expected to take a hit either should expenses rise. For example, property taxes here went up 10% for the taxes paid in 2022 and that does not include hikes for property assessments. According to the state, property taxes make up 20% of the rent being paid. There is no way we should ask a landlord to eat that type of raise and if we do, eventually landlords leave the business (especially the mom and pop ones that might overlook a credit mistake and are more willing to take a chance). If units are taken off the market, that leads to less units to house people.



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31 Jan 2022, 12:25 pm

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League_Girl wrote:
Homelessness is also caused by greedy landlords who keep raising the rent on you or they raise it by $400. I don't blame it on rich people moving here, the issue is greed so they raise the rent to get rid of their current tenants so they get rich tenants.

We have over 4000 homeless here. They have RVs and tents. How to help them is give them a vacant lot to stay at and provide them a dumpster and Porta potty. Now residents won't have an eye sore in their neighborhoods.


You know, we say greedy landlords but a landlord should not be expected to take a hit either should expenses rise. For example, property taxes here went up 10% for the taxes paid in 2022 and that does not include hikes for property assessments. According to the state, property taxes make up 20% of the rent being paid. There is no way we should ask a landlord to eat that type of raise and if we do, eventually landlords leave the business (especially the mom and pop ones that might overlook a credit mistake and are more willing to take a chance). If units are taken off the market, that leads to less units to house people.


If more landleeches leave the business the homes can be purchased by the state and used as public housing or purchased by private, residential owners who intend on actually living in them. Removing a source of inefficiency is a positive, not a negative.


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31 Jan 2022, 12:28 pm



"Hate And Judgements are Addictions for A Lot of People"

As Quoted From An Excellent YouTube Documentary Provided;

Yes, This is So True, And Science Shows it is so As Fear, Anger,
And Hate are Considerable Sources of Adrenaline And Dopamine Addiction.

There is Always Someone to 'CR8P' On A Peg Lower 'You' Perceive When 'You'
Are Not Really Naked, Enough, Whole Complete, 'Yourself'; It's Like Folks Waiting

To Get the Free Drug At 'The Free Clinic' to Help With their Opiate Addictions, Complaining
That Folks are on Medicaid, And Get Free Medical Assistance That Way From the 'Nanny State';

Just someone

Else to Fear, Judge
And Hate; Yes Now,

Just Another Addiction, Indeed;

And Indeed, The Worst Homelessness
is Poverty of Not Understanding 'Yourself' Again

Coming to the Place Within; The Home of Naked, Enough, Whole, Complete...

It's True, i've Been Homeless Before too, With A Roof Over my Head and Totally
Financially Independent; Also, in a Federal Job At Higher Pay Grades and Rates of Pay...

And Yes, I've Also Been Shut-in in my Home, With No Home of Soul Within Left at All
With the Worst Pain Known to Humankind, with a Synergy of 18 Other Life Threatening

Medical Disorders, Most All Work And Stress Related for 11 Years With the Last 2 in A State
of Fight or Flight Acute Stress; And Without a Memory if i Ever Smiled Before As Science Shows
Emotions Are Memories, And Memories Are Emotions; When they Go No Reference Point out of

Hell; Yes, Just A Thousand
Years in One Second in 'All Is Time'
of Hell Now For Real, Now For Real Then;

Yes, Acute Pro-longed Stress

WILL DESTROY

JUST ABOUT EVERY BODILY
SYSTEM FOR LIFE From: HEAD to: TOE
THROUGH MIND AND BODY SOUL WHOLE AS EMPTY WITHIN FOR REAL.

IT'S Rather 'Rich' to Suggest that "A Disabled Person Now Who Has
Trouble Getting into a Cab", Should Stay off Youtube to Get Out and

About More When

YouTube May

Be Their Only

Way to Connect With
The World Shut-in in a Home
Most Hours of the Day With No Way to Go...

True, There is the Homelessness of a Lack
of Cognitive Empathy, Understanding Some
Shoes are Literally Harder to Walk in and Get out and
About Than Others are; Yes, to Mention Real Issues of the Mind too

Preventing
one from
Getting out and About

And True, i Get out and About
A Whole Lot Now, the Last 101 Months

Freed From Shut-in, From Wake to Sleep
With the Worst Pain Known to Humankind, Homeless of Soul
That No Drug Would Touch Then From Wake to Sleep for 66 Months...

Yes, NoW in A Total of 16,116 Miles of Public Dance in the Deep South;

Yes, i've Danced Underneath Bridges on the Beaches of Biloxi Casino
Lands And Communed With 'The Homeless' Who Emptied Their Pockets

And Readily Admit They are indeed Proud They Dropped Out of Society
That Was Literally Destroying Their Soul From Head to Toe too, until they

Decided Perhaps Living Was Better Than Dying Within; And Perhaps Doing 'the Story

of Jesus' For Real Emptying Pockets and Communing Homeless With Folks Under Bridges

of Beautiful Public

Beaches Was the Real

Way to Paradise on Earth;

Living off the Kindness of Others,

Just Dusting Off Their 'Sandals'
in Places They Are Not Welcome

Leaving Dust Without Love Behind;

So Yes, No, Who Am i to Judge Them;

No one, Really at All; No one, Really At All...

One Thing For Sure, We Bypass the Collection Baskets
At the Catholic Church We Visit WHere All i Leave is the
Holy Sacred Spirit of my Song of SoUL Permeating 'the Cathedral Tops';

Yes Rarely, If Ever, Unless We Miss Seeing the Homeless Person(s) Now on
The Street Do We Not Stop And Provide A Few Dollars And A Soul Song Free

in Communion With Them Without Any Judgement of Where They Have Been

or Going Now...

i Was in An Active Status for Pay At Work for 33 Years; And Ever Since i Officially
Retired After Spending the Last Year and A Half Since Age 47 on Annual And Sick
Leave, i Rarely Ever Used, Working Holidays too At Work Those years; Finally, Financially

Independent

i made a Vow

to Never Make A Penny
Again, Yet Work Every Day

16 Hours and More A Day in Play

Just Spreading A Message of Love Free With
Empty Pockets Now And Indeed my Influence
Has Reached More Folks Than What is Countable
At Least With the Naked Eye of Stars in the Sky All for Free...

And Nah, i Don't Need A Newer Car, or A Newer Home to Rape
And Destroy the Nature of Earth Already Over-Consumed this
Way by the Ever Growing Zombie Apocalypse Of CULTuRaL Capitalism

Globally

Now Eating

The Face of
Nature Away Out of Balancing Nature that
Includes Us too, Witting on Not Now FOR REAL...

AND THAT'S MY HOMELESS STORY TOO; USUALLY
TOO BIG FOR ANYONE IN 'THE CROWD' TO SEE as i Dance

Through
And Touch
Angel Wings
Left Around the Globe

Without Working Now
for A God Damned Penny...

-Freddy the Free Loader

~ Free Lance Circus Clown, Just Another

Fool For Love, Naked, Enough, Whole, Complete...

Just Another Hobo; "Train, Train, Take me Out of this 'Town'...."

~"Blackfoot" too...

~No Shoes, When i Become
One Naked, Enough, Whole
Complete Dancing With Sand
And Sun and Birds Flying And
Furry Creatures Still Climbing Trees Free...

~Yet It's True, THere aRE ALways Two Sides of 'the
Story' too and More as the 'Tree Rats' Do Quarrel
A Bit Over All the Sunflower Seeds We Provide Free...

-'Adam And Eve'

~In the Garden And
Not EveN A God

Damned

'Eden'

"i Dream of

Jeannie" Myth...



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31 Jan 2022, 4:52 pm

funeralxempire wrote:
demeus wrote:
League_Girl wrote:
Homelessness is also caused by greedy landlords who keep raising the rent on you or they raise it by $400. I don't blame it on rich people moving here, the issue is greed so they raise the rent to get rid of their current tenants so they get rich tenants.

We have over 4000 homeless here. They have RVs and tents. How to help them is give them a vacant lot to stay at and provide them a dumpster and Porta potty. Now residents won't have an eye sore in their neighborhoods.


You know, we say greedy landlords but a landlord should not be expected to take a hit either should expenses rise. For example, property taxes here went up 10% for the taxes paid in 2022 and that does not include hikes for property assessments. According to the state, property taxes make up 20% of the rent being paid. There is no way we should ask a landlord to eat that type of raise and if we do, eventually landlords leave the business (especially the mom and pop ones that might overlook a credit mistake and are more willing to take a chance). If units are taken off the market, that leads to less units to house people.


If more landleeches leave the business the homes can be purchased by the state and used as public housing or purchased by private, residential owners who intend on actually living in them. Removing a source of inefficiency is a positive, not a negative.


The state is not buying these homes and most states do not have the money to be able to do that, especially in high rents states such as California or New York. Who buys these homes are REITS, Wall Street investors, or foreign investors who do not care about the community but expect a tenant to have an 850 credit score and unblemished rental record. If they own enough of the homes, they will force the cities to lower property taxes for rental homes under the threat of causing a larger homeless issue, which means that the community has less money for services.

As for home ownership, if you cannot afford the rent, you cannot afford to own a home. The cost of ownership is not just the mortgage. It includes property taxes, homeowners fees is part of a HOA, fire insurance, repair or replacement of appliances, repair of the home, and making sure the grass is cut and the sidewalks are free from snow. You also usually have to pay for water/sewer and any other utility that the landlord usually deals with. And in my state, you get less of a property refund if you own your home vs renting.



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31 Jan 2022, 5:00 pm

Around here, when landlords sell their properties, it is usually to a developer who later evicts all the tenants, demolishes the buildings, and installs housing developments -- usually gated communities -- for wealthier professionals.  This is called "Gentrification".

If instead a landlord defaults on his taxes, the IRS seizes the property, lets it deteriorate until the local government condemns it and the tenants have to move out.  Then the IRS sells the property to a developer who demolishes the buildings, and installs housing developments -- usually gated communities -- for wealthier professionals.  This is called "Urban Development".



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31 Jan 2022, 5:33 pm

demeus wrote:
League_Girl wrote:
Homelessness is also caused by greedy landlords who keep raising the rent on you or they raise it by $400. I don't blame it on rich people moving here, the issue is greed so they raise the rent to get rid of their current tenants so they get rich tenants.

We have over 4000 homeless here. They have RVs and tents. How to help them is give them a vacant lot to stay at and provide them a dumpster and Porta potty. Now residents won't have an eye sore in their neighborhoods.


You know, we say greedy landlords but a landlord should not be expected to take a hit either should expenses rise. For example, property taxes here went up 10% for the taxes paid in 2022 and that does not include hikes for property assessments. According to the state, property taxes make up 20% of the rent being paid. There is no way we should ask a landlord to eat that type of raise and if we do, eventually landlords leave the business (especially the mom and pop ones that might overlook a credit mistake and are more willing to take a chance). If units are taken off the market, that leads to less units to house people.



There is a difference between raising rent to make up the difference for higher taxes than price gouging your tenants they can't even save to buy a house or they are rented out and then are homeless because they couldn't afford the high rent because the landlord wanted richer tenants so they can get more money by raising the rent. Home mortgages are cheaper than paying rent.

If it weren't for our former landlord, me and my husband wouldn't have gotten a house so in a way she helped us by never raising our rent. She didn't believe in profit and the building she owned was all paid off. To keep her utilities bills low, she kept the place maintained and she even had to replace a toilet in a tenant's apartment because it was leaking and it gave her a high water bill for the building.


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