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Cartoon about events quite a good YouTube channel

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=tII4wGr3apc

There is truly disturbing news here. The fake news is said to come from local Russian officials.

Thanks.
So these are exactly the lies they're accused of* but not likely to have any actual impact.

A laser projection on a clear sky is physically impossible so it must be faked. I interpret it as pushing a narrative that the Chinese fully support Russia, with total disregard to the actual communities that are supposed to be saying it.

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*Poland supplies Ukraine in every way available but does not send troops there. A claim that Poland would backstab Ukraine is repeated by Kremlin to undermine this cooperation but it's entirely void - from Polish point of view, a chance for establishing close cooperation with Ukraine is worth infinitely more than any possible territorial gains at a cost of hostility.

^That smells like promoting Western-Chinese hostility... and on the Western side, it's funny how the Trumpster-like right-wing media seem most active in painting the Chinese as possible agressors.

While the whole West does not trust China for their lack of transparency and disregard for human rights, the most crazy anti-China conspiracies seem to come from the far right. Western far right (and likely far left, but this has currently significantly less impact) has traceable connections to Kremlin...

Some of the hostilities are likely spontanic but is there also some intentional activity aimed at spoiling possible Chinese-Western cooperation?

I think Western military companies have been pressing the West to believe that it faces an enemy in the form of a great power. Whether it is Russia or China or other targets that may arise.
"Islamic terror" is not always a compelling enough rhetoric for states to buy large quantities of arms.

My other impression is (correct me if I'm wrong) that even the early days of the Putin regime were not lacking in efforts to integrate into the West, but were rejected by the West.
The "West", or the United States and the European Union, need a common enemy to hold themselves together.
And a fully united Europe might force an alliance between China and the United States.

Putin worked in East Germany for a long time during the Soviet Union. Germany may be an overly special case. I'm more curious about the records of European countries, which have less at odds with the US, about their engagement with Russia.

The Rose Revolution broke out in Georgia in 2003, and the pro-Russian president was ousted.
The Orange Revolution broke out in Ukraine in 2004. Pro-Russian President Yanukovych won, but was accused of electoral fraud, and some people did not recognize the election results, and the revolution broke out.
In 2008, Bush insisted on deploying anti-missile missiles in Poland, and the reason given was to "prevent Iran". This appears to be a turning point in a sharp deterioration in U.S.-Russian relations.

I pretty much agree with everything Hanson said, particularly when he says Biden was "twiddling his thumbs" at the beginning and essentially invited pootin to invade.

^You might be able to supplement your knowledge of the world from sources other than Fox and its affiliates?
Repeated selection of the same interest group narratives only reinforces prejudice endlessly.

This makes your self-proclaimed "centrist" less credible.
Even if I never shy away from the faction I belong to in the Chinese political debate, I have read almost equal numbers of the claims of the other two factions.