Are we sure Trump won’t be President after 1/20/29?

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03 Feb 2025, 9:40 pm

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I was under the impression that Ford was not elected to the role of president, and took over the role after Nixon was impeached (?)

My overall point is that Trump might attempt to manipulate his way into a 3rd term using any kind of precendent that he can.


Ford was not elected President. That does not mean that he could have two more terms.

Since he took over and served more than two years as President, he was only eligible to run for reelection once. If he had been made President to serve out less than two years of the previous term, then he would have been eligible to run for reelection twice.



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04 Feb 2025, 4:40 pm

The question really is: by what scheme could the would-be dictator try to establish himself as dictator? Could this happen in the USA?



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04 Feb 2025, 5:38 pm

I don't think Trump fans can get a constitutional amendment to enable Trump to serve more terms passed, but I suspect they might just try to ignore the constitution and dare Americans to stop them.

At that point I wouldn't blame anyone for relying on a 2nd amendment remedy to that scenario.


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05 Feb 2025, 12:52 am

I am growing less and less confident by the hour that Trump won't be President on January 21, 2029. Of course, by that point, the title of President will be meaningless.

We spent four years obsessing about a coup that failed in 2021. It was just delayed. It is succeeding in 2025.


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05 Feb 2025, 5:37 am

I personally question if Trump will be in any physical or mental shape to even finish out this term. But that doesn't mean he and his shadow government of billionaires lack the machinations for him to outstay his term. I suspect Musk has his eyes on Don Jr. as a possible replacement on a future ticket.


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05 Feb 2025, 5:50 am

Kraichgauer wrote:
I personally question if Trump will be in any physical or mental shape to even finish out this term. But that doesn't mean he and his shadow government of billionaires lack the machinations for him to outstay his term. I suspect Musk has his eyes on Don Jr. as a possible replacement on a future ticket.


Good observation.

I sure hope it isn't another Trump, though. I detest dynasties. One Trump is bad enough, two is much, much worse.



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12 Feb 2025, 10:57 pm

SendInTheClowns wrote:
I was under the impression that Ford was not elected to the role of president, and took over the role after Nixon was impeached (?)

My overall point is that Trump might attempt to manipulate his way into a 3rd term using any kind of precendent that he can.


Regarding Nixon, while he was impeached, be had enough sense to resign before he was brought to trial and convicted.



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13 Feb 2025, 1:09 am

funeralxempire wrote:
I don't think Trump fans can get a constitutional amendment to enable Trump to serve more terms passed, but I suspect they might just try to ignore the constitution and dare Americans to stop them.

At that point I wouldn't blame anyone for relying on a 2nd amendment remedy to that scenario.


Yet the military is on his side, rather than the country's side. They're too afraid of being court-martialed and losing government benefits to cross him.


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13 Feb 2025, 5:21 am

Tim_Tex wrote:
funeralxempire wrote:
I don't think Trump fans can get a constitutional amendment to enable Trump to serve more terms passed, but I suspect they might just try to ignore the constitution and dare Americans to stop them.

At that point I wouldn't blame anyone for relying on a 2nd amendment remedy to that scenario.


Yet the military is on his side, rather than the country's side. They're too afraid of being court-martialed and losing government benefits to cross him.


As with Germany's military leaders during the Nazi era, many high ranking members of America's officer corps have demonstrated they see Trump as the real national threat. If it comes to a new bomb plot, hopefully this one will work out better than Stauffenberg's.


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13 Feb 2025, 6:31 am

Kraichgauer wrote:
Tim_Tex wrote:
funeralxempire wrote:
I don't think Trump fans can get a constitutional amendment to enable Trump to serve more terms passed, but I suspect they might just try to ignore the constitution and dare Americans to stop them.

At that point I wouldn't blame anyone for relying on a 2nd amendment remedy to that scenario.


Yet the military is on his side, rather than the country's side. They're too afraid of being court-martialed and losing government benefits to cross him.


As with Germany's military leaders during the Nazi era, many high ranking members of America's officer corps have demonstrated they see Trump as the real national threat. If it comes to a new bomb plot, hopefully this one will work out better than Stauffenberg's.


But how do we explain when law enforcement allows neo-Nazis to hold offensive signs over overpasses in historically black neighborhoods, like we saw in Cincinnati and Houston the past few days, yet if a left-wing group did the same, they would face tear gas and bullets?

I am afraid that people will stop doing what's right because they fear the consequences of doing so. That's what the MAGAs want.


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13 Feb 2025, 11:35 am

Tim_Tex wrote:
But how do we explain when law enforcement allows neo-Nazis to hold offensive signs over overpasses in historically black neighborhoods, like we saw in Cincinnati and Houston the past few days, yet if a left-wing group did the same, they would face tear gas and bullets?


That was true prior to Trump having any power too.


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13 Feb 2025, 5:31 pm

Tim Tex -

But those are cops, who have always had their ranks filled with wannabe fascists. I'm talking about the military's officer corps, of which many if not most have been conservative, but hardly fascist.


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13 Feb 2025, 11:53 pm

Kraichgauer wrote:
But those are cops, who have always had their ranks filled with wannabe fascists. I'm talking about the military's officer corps, of which many if not most have been conservative, but hardly fascist.


to quote RATM. Some of those who work forces, are the same that burn crosses...



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14 Feb 2025, 1:16 am

cyberdora wrote:
Kraichgauer wrote:
But those are cops, who have always had their ranks filled with wannabe fascists. I'm talking about the military's officer corps, of which many if not most have been conservative, but hardly fascist.


to quote RATM. Some of those who work forces, are the same that burn crosses...


Sadly so.


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