Encouragement to kill babies in the Christian Bible

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Did you know that the Christian Bible has multiple passages where babies are killed and virgins are raped -- in the name of god? You probably think I am making a sick joke. I am not. I am completely serious. It really does have multiple passes talking about killing babies and raping virgins in the name of god.

You want to see proof? Go grab your bible, and lookup Numbers 31:18. I will quote it here:

Note the last sentence of that quote. And the "keep alive for yourselves" obviously means to keep the female children alive so you can rape them.

This is just 1 example. There are others.

And every Christian who reads this says, "I'm not going to touch that one with a 50 foot pole!" Hence why I have no replies so far.

See, the problem is that if you reply to this, then you will remember it, and then you will forever feel uncomfortable about Christianity. In order to safeguard and preserve your belief in Christianity, the best thing to do is to quickly leave this message and try to forget that you ever saw that part of the bible.

Would you rather eat them alive?

The bible also encourages slavery, and selling one's daughter to it. I'm afraid I don't have the quotes with me at the moment but they're there....

Both off you completely missed the fact that this is in the old testament, didn't you? Second off, did you even stop to consider that maybe the men MARRIED the women first? Or how dramatic husband/wife age differences were in that culture? God was telling the ISREALITITES what to do, NOT THE READER. Haven't you noticed that at the begining of the new testament, Jesus basically said that many (but not all) of the laws of the old testament need not apply?

Dude, please don't do something like this again. It's rude, and makes you look like an a**hole. I'm gonna cut you a little slack, because you're an Aspie, and apparently not a Christian. Everyone is entitled to their believes and interpretations, and you have no right to interfere with that.

Jesus also talks about killing children:

Regarding your comment about marriage, so you are saying it is OK to force underage girls to have sex provided that you marry them first ? These are the same girls whose parents and male siblings you murdered earlier.

Emp, Jesus is speaking symbolically in Revelations. You must remember that Jezebel the actual woman was already long dead by the time of Jesus and John. Revelations, you must remember, is describing events at the Second Coming of Jesus, when the wicked will be punished and the good rewarded and taken to Heaven. "Her children" is symbolic of wicked people, which, yes, could conceivably include children.
Odda, Jesus was referring to Mosaic Law, which no longer held sway since the sacrifice, aka Jesus, had arrived on Earth. A large portion of Mosaic Law, if you remember, consisted of ritual sacrifice of animals in symbolism of Jesus' future sacrifice upon the cross. By placing their sins upon the animal, they were symbolising the placing of their sins upon Jesus. It is these laws that no longer apply. If you read Emp's quote, you will notice that it is not on the basis of a law that they killed the children of the Midianites, but on the say-so of Moses. Moses, as a prophet of God, we can only assume was doing God's bidding. It was on the LORD's say-so that they warred with the Midianites in the first place.
Might I also mention a quote in the Bible, that if your daughter has been raped, it is encouraged that she is married to her rapist? If you want a wife, but can't have one, rape someone and you get her cheap. It's just not cricket.

That is Jesus expressing approval of the law, and no objection to the Old Testament.

In Mathew 11:20-24, Jesus kills children. Well, to be precise, he destroys these whole cities, but there are children as well as adults living in cities, therefore he kills children (and adults).

In Mathew 15:4, Jesus says that anyone who curses their parents should be killed. So if a child curses their parents (is disobedient), the child should be killed.

In Mathew 24:37, Jesus says that the flood that killed everyone except for Noah and his Ark, that flood will happen again when he returns. So this is Jesus promising to kill children and adults. Same thing is said in Luke 17:26-27.

In Mark 6:11, Jesus says that if a city defies him, he will destroy it. Again there are children living in cities, so therefore Jesus plans to kill children (along with adults). Again in Luke 10:10-15.

The age of the sinner makes no difference. The wages of sin is death. He's killing these people because of their sin dude. What is the point you're trying to make here, because I don't see it. You'd have to get up pretty early in the morning to try to get Christians to denounce their faith because of these verses.

Furthermore, I thought you didn't even believe their was a God, and thus all of the bible's teachings are hogwash, so why are you reading so deeply into this?

yes, i did. what baffles me is how the authorities often discuss banning violent video games and censoring art when it is clear that the bible inspires far more people to commit hate crimes and even go on murder sprees (in extreme cases). and, let's not even get started on the crusades and the witch trials.

The Bible is one of the most perverse, gory, hate-filled texts I've ever read, and I was raised Baptist, so I had to memorize the damned thing as a child. :/

But today's Christianity is such a perversion of the original intent of the religion anyway that there's no point in trying to connect what people actually do with the holy book they purport to read but are really too lazy to pick up for anything other than the occasional greeting card verse or bile-filled condemnation. The average Christian knows so little about the Bible, let alone the history of the text (which is seriously important to understanding it), that he doesn't even know which testament his bigotry is coming from, and I say that from extensive experience.

However, people are entitled to believe what they want to believe and say what they want to say -- and that includes religious skepticism, contrary to what current popular opinion holds. *shrugs*

It is not the bible that is perverse and hate filled, but the self-rightous people that think holy war is still okay when it isn't. Today, our is 'against the rulers and leaders of the unseen world, and heavenly realms.'

The involvement of my country in the war in Iraq inspired many polls for, or against the war on the internet. While many people are quick to point out the need for war (to gain justice for human rights violations and acts of terrorism suffered by many; to punish the terrorists), others seem doubtful. Some christians have asked them selves, should a Christian ever go to war? Or should Christians be pacifists, refusing to take up arms no matter the cause? Many Christians have asked this of themselves.

Lets examine God's orders for his chosen nation of Israel in the old testament. In numbers 31, God tells his people to go to war with the midianites and to utterly destroy them. Why did God require such terrible punishment for Israel's enemies? Aren't Christians supposed to be kind peacemakers?

To answer this, we have to understand some basic differences between the old testament nation of Israel, and God's people today. In the old testament, God led his nation to their new home: Canaan. Along the way, they were opposed by number of other tribes/nations like the Midianites. (After all, who would voluntarily give up his or her home?) The problem wasn't simply these people were in their way dude. They also worshipped idols, and routinely sacrificed their own children to these idols. (With this in mind, Israel may have actually SAVED these children if they married them.)

People are no longer determinded by nationality, but by spirituallity. Modern wars are not, nor can they be holy like Israel's were. If those girls were raped, the rapists did it knowing they were violating God's law, and have since been judged. THe same thing goes for those responsible for the wtich trails, and crusdaes.

I will acknowledge that a lot of todays Christians are bigotted weaklings, but I am not among them because I actually study mine.

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Would you really want to worship a god that says it's O.K. for HIS chosen people (not you because even though"god" "created" you, You're just a mud person) do do these things??

Yes, if Yahweh was here on earth today, he'd be put on trial for crimes against humanity. Ironic isn't it??

The hypocricy of biblical literalism is quite evident here.

God's chosen people are the ones who believe in him, not just the Israelites. And what do you mean 'mud person'? Were all his children.

if you searched hard enough, anyone could find a bible verse that supports their politics/agenda... doesn't mean that's what the bible actually says...

That is really sick. Basically you are saying it is OK to kill non-Christian children because they are "sinners" because they have a different opinion about religion and god.

Killing children because they have a different opinion (do not believe in your god) is extremely immoral. It is barbaric.



This is true. Christians will continue to steadfastly support Christianity regardless of how horrific and barbaric it is. I mean, what could be worse than killing babies and raping virgins, it is the worst thing possible, yet they still defend it with vehemence. So basically, there is nothing I can say and no evidence that I can present that would change the mind of Christians.

God could literally appear tomorrow, prove his existence and power, and then order Christians to disband Christianity, and the Christians STILL would defend Christianity and refuse to disband. Not even God is capable of convincing Christians to end Christianity.