Catholic Church Blames Hippies for Pedophile Priests

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20 May 2011, 3:42 am

That's a really crappy excuse. People in the ministry are supposed to be above behaving like that, and their definition of pedophile is just splitting hairs because 1) the victims were under age of consent, and 2) they did not participate in the act willingly.


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20 May 2011, 3:47 am

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That's a really crappy excuse. People in the ministry are supposed to be above behaving like that, and their definition of pedophile is just splitting hairs because 1) the victims were under age of consent, and 2) they did not participate in the act willingly.

Yeah, what kind of sick people are going to try to spin the numbers by not counting 11 year olds?



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20 May 2011, 4:45 am

The thing i never understood is, if they are going to break their vows, why take it out on some kid? Why not just get a hooker? I know that in most parts of the world hookers haven't been available for the 1700 years John Paul II admitted the sex abuse scandal has been going on for, but for about the last 400 years or so, they have been obtainable.


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20 May 2011, 6:59 am

yeah for such a large influence on society through more than a thousand years, blaming society really is the ultimate proof of hipocracy.


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20 May 2011, 8:43 am

Oh really? Have they run out of people to blame yet? Next thing you know, they'll blame Crab People for the scandal.


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20 May 2011, 10:40 am

Hippies? What a load of bs. One of the big scandals here in Quebec and elsewhere across Canada is the forced deportation of thousands of Inuit children to different church run orphanages. This happened well before the time of the hippies. But anyways, a lot of these children were molested by priests. One reason the Catholic Church in Quebec lost a lot of its former influence over people here. There were also a lot of cases of orphans and other children being molested well before the 60s. Stupid church is just making themselves look even worse by scapegoating hippies


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20 May 2011, 12:12 pm

Everyone is responsible for their own actions.



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20 May 2011, 12:23 pm

What? Nobody made them do it. They f****d up by their own will.



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20 May 2011, 12:28 pm

...and elsewhere, the gay-rights-Catholic-lobbyist group that somehow got hold of my e-mail address is holding the study aloft as a Triumph and Step Towards True Equality. Was it a study, or a Rorschach blot?


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20 May 2011, 12:53 pm

I thought it was laughable.

I notice they had particular mention of how "no marriage" and "gay priests" were not the issue.

Well, tell me how the 60s were such a powerful influence by comparison.

RCC denies the right to marry and have sex based on misinterpretation of the Bible (being single is encouraged, but not mandated, for those in ministry).

In the RCC, the only real option for many gays and lesbians was to go into the holy orders as a way to deal with being unable to marry or pursue sexual desires prohibited by the Bible.

We have no idea of how long child abuse has happened in the RCC over the years, so we can't account for how many current abusers were once victims of abuse themselves.

But it was the evil 1960s. Ohhhhh.



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20 May 2011, 1:20 pm

zer0netgain wrote:
Well, tell me how the 60s were such a powerful influence by comparison.


A lot of Catholics went off the deep end in the '60s, right along with the culture. Not surprising if we followed suit here too - and not to our credit.

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RCC denies the right to marry and have sex based on misinterpretation of the Bible (being single is encouraged, but not mandated, for those in ministry).


Well, we do have a few married priests - it's outside the norm, sure, but not impossible (high-church Anglican and Lutheran priests crossing the Tiber, families in tow). It's more mainstream in the Eastern Catholic Rites - not Roman but still under the Pope. In the West, it had to do less with Biblical interpretation (though that was part) than with practicalities and medieval inheritance laws: if the priest's life is tied up with his parish, and the parish belongs to the church - what does he have to pass on to his children? They can't apprentice at his trade and he has nothing for them to inherit. Or should the parish belong to the priest...in which case, what of the Church's claim? And how to support the wife and children even in the priest's lifetime? It was just simpler/better to say priests should not be married, and put forward the Biblical encouragements for that.


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20 May 2011, 3:44 pm

John_Browning wrote:
The thing i never understood is, if they are going to break their vows, why take it out on some kid? Why not just get a hooker? I know that in most parts of the world hookers haven't been available for the 1700 years John Paul II admitted the sex abuse scandal has been going on for, but for about the last 400 years or so, they have been obtainable.



Poddon me, Madam, but I believe you are sitting on the hat you are talking through.

Plizz to document the parts of the world where access to contact with the opposite sex in exchange for economic incentives OR disincentives has not existed in the period in question.

It may be a little harder to find in well-run hunter-gatherer societies, but I think with the right trade goods in your possessions it would not be that hard to arrange in MOST parts of the world at MOST times especially if you are only going back 1750 years.



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20 May 2011, 3:57 pm

Yet another reason why I'm glad I'm a Protestant and not a Catholic.



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20 May 2011, 3:57 pm

Natty_Boh wrote:
zer0netgain wrote:
Well, tell me how the 60s were such a powerful influence by comparison.


A lot of Catholics went off the deep end in the '60s, right along with the culture. Not surprising if we followed suit here too - and not to our credit.



So that explains pedophilia/pedastry cases in the 1950s or why Catholics who came of age before the 1960s or completely rejected the 1960s counterculture have been implicated in pedophilia/pedastry cases?


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20 May 2011, 3:59 pm

Master_Pedant wrote:
Natty_Boh wrote:
zer0netgain wrote:
Well, tell me how the 60s were such a powerful influence by comparison.


A lot of Catholics went off the deep end in the '60s, right along with the culture. Not surprising if we followed suit here too - and not to our credit.



So that explains pedophilia/pedastry cases in the 1950s or why Catholics who came of age before the 1960s or completely rejected the 1960s counterculture have been implicated in pedophilia/pedastry cases?


I think the Catholic church needs to work on their hiring standards, putting it mildly.