17 Nov 2016, 6:15 am
Ganondox wrote:
LoveNotHate wrote:
Ganondox wrote:
This entire post is based on a fundamental misunderstanding of macroeconomics. You can't just produce homes and cars with debut, someone had to build it all. The debt is just a reflection of long-term production in the short-term. The fact America consumes a lot means America MUST be very productive. You simply can't consume without producing because on the macrolevel they are one and the same.
"Consumption" is not production.
If I buy a home this year, then that sale goes into the GDP.
If next year I sell, and someone else buys that same home, that sale goes into the GDP.
If another person buys that same home, that sale goes into the GDP.
One home could mean millions dollars of "GDP growth". Despite the home actually declining in value.
What part of "on the macrolevel" don't you understand? It's fundamentally different form microeconomics because it's a closed system. You can't use microeconomic arguments like an individual's actions for macroeconomics.
nurseangela wrote:
Ganondox wrote:
nurseangela wrote:
Barchan wrote:
nurseangela wrote:
All that Obama and the Left has done is to separate the races even more than they were before. Great job! And that's another reason I voted for Trump - to Make America Great Again!! ! !
And yet, comments you've made in the past about Muslims gives me doubts that you've taken America's values of religious liberty to heart.
Actually right now, I believe we should deport illegals (I don't care what race or religion) and close the borders down to all immigration. Then Immigration can begin again in an orderly fashion once the borders are secure. So, no, not just Muslims. Does that make you happier?
You clearly know NOTHING about how immigration works. Shutting down out borders would devastate our country because on a day to day basis immigration is extremely important for our economy. It would be a human rights disaster because this would ruin the lives of countless people who need to travel across the border regularly. Finally it would just be the worst foreign policy disaster the US has ever had and it would make literally every other country hate the US. Shutting down the borders is about the absolute stupidest thing we could do.
(Also, how are we supposed to close down the borders if they aren't secure? If you shut down the borders ONLY illegal immigrants would enter the US)
I said when the borders are secure.
Do you know when all the Ebola stuff was going on, we were the only nation that didn't close our borders? All other countries have no problem closing their borders. We didn't even stop flights coming in from high risk zones. Nuts.
No, you didn't. You said the borders should be REOPENED once they are secure.
Pretty sure that Ebola claim is a blatant lie and I'm pretty sure I actually did international traveling during that time period. Unless you mean "only country with an ebola infestation" and that's because 1. the outbreak was relatively extremely small in the US and 2. the other countries weren't nearly as involved in the global economy as the US is.
https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/to- ... s/?0p19G=c
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/travel/trave ... ights.html
And somewhere, I can't find it now, I know that England started closing its borders to incoming flights. I was an expert on the Ebola crap, so much so, that I lost my job over it. So don't tell me I'm wrong unless you know for damn sure that I am and back it up with reasonable sources.
I'm rude? You're the one calling people names and saying they are wrong and you are always right. I don't think you know what rude means.
And another thing, I hate rudeness. I didn't become rude until I came to this site and posted in the PPR section. This site has some of the most rudest people I have ever met in my entire life. Sometimes you have to fight fire with fire and that's what I try to do. Otherwise, in real life, I'm a lady.
17 Nov 2016, 6:39 am
nurseangela wrote:
Ganondox wrote:
LoveNotHate wrote:
Ganondox wrote:
This entire post is based on a fundamental misunderstanding of macroeconomics. You can't just produce homes and cars with debut, someone had to build it all. The debt is just a reflection of long-term production in the short-term. The fact America consumes a lot means America MUST be very productive. You simply can't consume without producing because on the macrolevel they are one and the same.
"Consumption" is not production.
If I buy a home this year, then that sale goes into the GDP.
If next year I sell, and someone else buys that same home, that sale goes into the GDP.
If another person buys that same home, that sale goes into the GDP.
One home could mean millions dollars of "GDP growth". Despite the home actually declining in value.
What part of "on the macrolevel" don't you understand? It's fundamentally different form microeconomics because it's a closed system. You can't use microeconomic arguments like an individual's actions for macroeconomics.
nurseangela wrote:
Ganondox wrote:
nurseangela wrote:
Barchan wrote:
nurseangela wrote:
All that Obama and the Left has done is to separate the races even more than they were before. Great job! And that's another reason I voted for Trump - to Make America Great Again!! ! !
And yet, comments you've made in the past about Muslims gives me doubts that you've taken America's values of religious liberty to heart.
Actually right now, I believe we should deport illegals (I don't care what race or religion) and close the borders down to all immigration. Then Immigration can begin again in an orderly fashion once the borders are secure. So, no, not just Muslims. Does that make you happier?
You clearly know NOTHING about how immigration works. Shutting down out borders would devastate our country because on a day to day basis immigration is extremely important for our economy. It would be a human rights disaster because this would ruin the lives of countless people who need to travel across the border regularly. Finally it would just be the worst foreign policy disaster the US has ever had and it would make literally every other country hate the US. Shutting down the borders is about the absolute stupidest thing we could do.
(Also, how are we supposed to close down the borders if they aren't secure? If you shut down the borders ONLY illegal immigrants would enter the US)
I said when the borders are secure.
Do you know when all the Ebola stuff was going on, we were the only nation that didn't close our borders? All other countries have no problem closing their borders. We didn't even stop flights coming in from high risk zones. Nuts.
No, you didn't. You said the borders should be REOPENED once they are secure.
Pretty sure that Ebola claim is a blatant lie and I'm pretty sure I actually did international traveling during that time period. Unless you mean "only country with an ebola infestation" and that's because 1. the outbreak was relatively extremely small in the US and 2. the other countries weren't nearly as involved in the global economy as the US is.
https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/to- ... s/?0p19G=c
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/travel/trave ... ights.html
And somewhere, I can't find it now, I know that England started closing its borders to incoming flights. I was an expert on the Ebola crap, so much so, that I lost my job over it. So don't tell me I'm wrong unless you know for damn sure that I am and back it up with reasonable sources.
I'm rude? You're the one calling people names and saying they are wrong and you are always right. I don't think you know what rude means.
And another thing, I hate rudeness. I didn't become rude until I came to this site and posted in the PPR section. This site has some of the most rudest people I have ever met in my entire life. Sometimes you have to fight fire with fire and that's what I try to do. Otherwise, in real life, I'm a lady.
There is huge difference between closing airports to a particular country, and closing down the borders. The first is something we do all the time, the second is something completely unreasonable because it would throttle the global economy. Again, it's pretty obvious you don't understand how immigration works, as the ebola thing is something completely different.
I only called one person I a name, and I said that was mistake. Meanwhile, you continue to insult all liberals in an extremely childish. I also specifically said I'm not always right, the problem is YOUR attitude. The only reason I've been rude to you is because you were rude first.I highly doubt you're not rude in life.
17 Nov 2016, 6:48 am
Ganondox wrote:
nurseangela wrote:
Ganondox wrote:
LoveNotHate wrote:
Ganondox wrote:
This entire post is based on a fundamental misunderstanding of macroeconomics. You can't just produce homes and cars with debut, someone had to build it all. The debt is just a reflection of long-term production in the short-term. The fact America consumes a lot means America MUST be very productive. You simply can't consume without producing because on the macrolevel they are one and the same.
"Consumption" is not production.
If I buy a home this year, then that sale goes into the GDP.
If next year I sell, and someone else buys that same home, that sale goes into the GDP.
If another person buys that same home, that sale goes into the GDP.
One home could mean millions dollars of "GDP growth". Despite the home actually declining in value.
What part of "on the macrolevel" don't you understand? It's fundamentally different form microeconomics because it's a closed system. You can't use microeconomic arguments like an individual's actions for macroeconomics.
nurseangela wrote:
Ganondox wrote:
nurseangela wrote:
Barchan wrote:
nurseangela wrote:
All that Obama and the Left has done is to separate the races even more than they were before. Great job! And that's another reason I voted for Trump - to Make America Great Again!! ! !
And yet, comments you've made in the past about Muslims gives me doubts that you've taken America's values of religious liberty to heart.
Actually right now, I believe we should deport illegals (I don't care what race or religion) and close the borders down to all immigration. Then Immigration can begin again in an orderly fashion once the borders are secure. So, no, not just Muslims. Does that make you happier?
You clearly know NOTHING about how immigration works. Shutting down out borders would devastate our country because on a day to day basis immigration is extremely important for our economy. It would be a human rights disaster because this would ruin the lives of countless people who need to travel across the border regularly. Finally it would just be the worst foreign policy disaster the US has ever had and it would make literally every other country hate the US. Shutting down the borders is about the absolute stupidest thing we could do.
(Also, how are we supposed to close down the borders if they aren't secure? If you shut down the borders ONLY illegal immigrants would enter the US)
I said when the borders are secure.
Do you know when all the Ebola stuff was going on, we were the only nation that didn't close our borders? All other countries have no problem closing their borders. We didn't even stop flights coming in from high risk zones. Nuts.
No, you didn't. You said the borders should be REOPENED once they are secure.
Pretty sure that Ebola claim is a blatant lie and I'm pretty sure I actually did international traveling during that time period. Unless you mean "only country with an ebola infestation" and that's because 1. the outbreak was relatively extremely small in the US and 2. the other countries weren't nearly as involved in the global economy as the US is.
https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/to- ... s/?0p19G=c
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/travel/trave ... ights.html
And somewhere, I can't find it now, I know that England started closing its borders to incoming flights. I was an expert on the Ebola crap, so much so, that I lost my job over it. So don't tell me I'm wrong unless you know for damn sure that I am and back it up with reasonable sources.
I'm rude? You're the one calling people names and saying they are wrong and you are always right. I don't think you know what rude means.
And another thing, I hate rudeness. I didn't become rude until I came to this site and posted in the PPR section. This site has some of the most rudest people I have ever met in my entire life. Sometimes you have to fight fire with fire and that's what I try to do. Otherwise, in real life, I'm a lady.
There is huge difference between closing airports to a particular country, and closing down the borders. The first is something we do all the time, the second is something completely unreasonable because it would throttle the global economy. Again, it's pretty obvious you don't understand how immigration works, as the ebola thing is something completely different.
I only called one person I a name, and I said that was mistake. Meanwhile, you continue to insult all liberals in an extremely childish. I also specifically said I'm not always right, the problem is YOUR attitude. The only reason I've been rude to you is because you were rude first.I highly doubt you're not rude in life.
Last edited by Shahunshah on 17 Nov 2016, 6:49 am, edited 1 time in total.
17 Nov 2016, 6:49 am
Ganondox wrote:
nurseangela wrote:
Ganondox wrote:
LoveNotHate wrote:
Ganondox wrote:
This entire post is based on a fundamental misunderstanding of macroeconomics. You can't just produce homes and cars with debut, someone had to build it all. The debt is just a reflection of long-term production in the short-term. The fact America consumes a lot means America MUST be very productive. You simply can't consume without producing because on the macrolevel they are one and the same.
"Consumption" is not production.
If I buy a home this year, then that sale goes into the GDP.
If next year I sell, and someone else buys that same home, that sale goes into the GDP.
If another person buys that same home, that sale goes into the GDP.
One home could mean millions dollars of "GDP growth". Despite the home actually declining in value.
What part of "on the macrolevel" don't you understand? It's fundamentally different form microeconomics because it's a closed system. You can't use microeconomic arguments like an individual's actions for macroeconomics.
nurseangela wrote:
Ganondox wrote:
nurseangela wrote:
Barchan wrote:
nurseangela wrote:
All that Obama and the Left has done is to separate the races even more than they were before. Great job! And that's another reason I voted for Trump - to Make America Great Again!! ! !
And yet, comments you've made in the past about Muslims gives me doubts that you've taken America's values of religious liberty to heart.
Actually right now, I believe we should deport illegals (I don't care what race or religion) and close the borders down to all immigration. Then Immigration can begin again in an orderly fashion once the borders are secure. So, no, not just Muslims. Does that make you happier?
You clearly know NOTHING about how immigration works. Shutting down out borders would devastate our country because on a day to day basis immigration is extremely important for our economy. It would be a human rights disaster because this would ruin the lives of countless people who need to travel across the border regularly. Finally it would just be the worst foreign policy disaster the US has ever had and it would make literally every other country hate the US. Shutting down the borders is about the absolute stupidest thing we could do.
(Also, how are we supposed to close down the borders if they aren't secure? If you shut down the borders ONLY illegal immigrants would enter the US)
I said when the borders are secure.
Do you know when all the Ebola stuff was going on, we were the only nation that didn't close our borders? All other countries have no problem closing their borders. We didn't even stop flights coming in from high risk zones. Nuts.
No, you didn't. You said the borders should be REOPENED once they are secure.
Pretty sure that Ebola claim is a blatant lie and I'm pretty sure I actually did international traveling during that time period. Unless you mean "only country with an ebola infestation" and that's because 1. the outbreak was relatively extremely small in the US and 2. the other countries weren't nearly as involved in the global economy as the US is.
https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/to- ... s/?0p19G=c
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/travel/trave ... ights.html
And somewhere, I can't find it now, I know that England started closing its borders to incoming flights. I was an expert on the Ebola crap, so much so, that I lost my job over it. So don't tell me I'm wrong unless you know for damn sure that I am and back it up with reasonable sources.
I'm rude? You're the one calling people names and saying they are wrong and you are always right. I don't think you know what rude means.
And another thing, I hate rudeness. I didn't become rude until I came to this site and posted in the PPR section. This site has some of the most rudest people I have ever met in my entire life. Sometimes you have to fight fire with fire and that's what I try to do. Otherwise, in real life, I'm a lady.
There is huge difference between closing airports to a particular country, and closing down the borders. The first is something we do all the time, the second is something completely unreasonable because it would throttle the global economy. Again, it's pretty obvious you don't understand how immigration works, as the ebola thing is something completely different.
I only called one person I a name, and I said that was mistake. Meanwhile, you continue to insult all liberals in an extremely childish. I also specifically said I'm not always right, the problem is YOUR attitude. The only reason I've been rude to you is because you were rude first.I highly doubt you're not rude in life.
I'm not insulting anyone. Sorry if telling what is happening in the news is upsetting to you. Liberals are extremely insulting and doing obnoxious behavior at this time, so any news about them is going to sound insulting.
You should read my Truth thread because I tried to keep it a clean debate thread and that's probably why it stayed open so long, however, I had to turn people in right and left because of the crap they said to me and the names they called me. Those people are the rude ones. That's why I reported you because you were starting the name calling all over again. I haven't seen Sly in this thread since.
17 Nov 2016, 6:54 am
nurseangela wrote:
Ganondox wrote:
nurseangela wrote:
Ganondox wrote:
LoveNotHate wrote:
Ganondox wrote:
This entire post is based on a fundamental misunderstanding of macroeconomics. You can't just produce homes and cars with debut, someone had to build it all. The debt is just a reflection of long-term production in the short-term. The fact America consumes a lot means America MUST be very productive. You simply can't consume without producing because on the macrolevel they are one and the same.
"Consumption" is not production.
If I buy a home this year, then that sale goes into the GDP.
If next year I sell, and someone else buys that same home, that sale goes into the GDP.
If another person buys that same home, that sale goes into the GDP.
One home could mean millions dollars of "GDP growth". Despite the home actually declining in value.
What part of "on the macrolevel" don't you understand? It's fundamentally different form microeconomics because it's a closed system. You can't use microeconomic arguments like an individual's actions for macroeconomics.
nurseangela wrote:
Ganondox wrote:
nurseangela wrote:
Barchan wrote:
nurseangela wrote:
All that Obama and the Left has done is to separate the races even more than they were before. Great job! And that's another reason I voted for Trump - to Make America Great Again!! ! !
And yet, comments you've made in the past about Muslims gives me doubts that you've taken America's values of religious liberty to heart.
Actually right now, I believe we should deport illegals (I don't care what race or religion) and close the borders down to all immigration. Then Immigration can begin again in an orderly fashion once the borders are secure. So, no, not just Muslims. Does that make you happier?
You clearly know NOTHING about how immigration works. Shutting down out borders would devastate our country because on a day to day basis immigration is extremely important for our economy. It would be a human rights disaster because this would ruin the lives of countless people who need to travel across the border regularly. Finally it would just be the worst foreign policy disaster the US has ever had and it would make literally every other country hate the US. Shutting down the borders is about the absolute stupidest thing we could do.
(Also, how are we supposed to close down the borders if they aren't secure? If you shut down the borders ONLY illegal immigrants would enter the US)
I said when the borders are secure.
Do you know when all the Ebola stuff was going on, we were the only nation that didn't close our borders? All other countries have no problem closing their borders. We didn't even stop flights coming in from high risk zones. Nuts.
No, you didn't. You said the borders should be REOPENED once they are secure.
Pretty sure that Ebola claim is a blatant lie and I'm pretty sure I actually did international traveling during that time period. Unless you mean "only country with an ebola infestation" and that's because 1. the outbreak was relatively extremely small in the US and 2. the other countries weren't nearly as involved in the global economy as the US is.
https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/to- ... s/?0p19G=c
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/travel/trave ... ights.html
And somewhere, I can't find it now, I know that England started closing its borders to incoming flights. I was an expert on the Ebola crap, so much so, that I lost my job over it. So don't tell me I'm wrong unless you know for damn sure that I am and back it up with reasonable sources.
I'm rude? You're the one calling people names and saying they are wrong and you are always right. I don't think you know what rude means.
And another thing, I hate rudeness. I didn't become rude until I came to this site and posted in the PPR section. This site has some of the most rudest people I have ever met in my entire life. Sometimes you have to fight fire with fire and that's what I try to do. Otherwise, in real life, I'm a lady.
There is huge difference between closing airports to a particular country, and closing down the borders. The first is something we do all the time, the second is something completely unreasonable because it would throttle the global economy. Again, it's pretty obvious you don't understand how immigration works, as the ebola thing is something completely different.
I only called one person I a name, and I said that was mistake. Meanwhile, you continue to insult all liberals in an extremely childish. I also specifically said I'm not always right, the problem is YOUR attitude. The only reason I've been rude to you is because you were rude first.I highly doubt you're not rude in life.
I'm not insulting anyone. Sorry if telling what is happening in the news is upsetting to you. Liberals are extremely insulting and doing obnoxious behavior at this time, so any news about them is going to sound insulting.
You should read my Truth thread because I tried to keep it a clean debate thread and that's probably why it stayed open so long, however, I had to turn people in right and left because of the crap they said to me and the names they called me. Those people are the rude ones. That's why I reported you because you were starting the name calling all over again. I haven't seen Sly in this thread since.
And by your logic I haven't been insulting anyone either, I've just been saying what they are.
17 Nov 2016, 6:56 am
17 Nov 2016, 6:57 am
nurseangela wrote:
Ganondox wrote:
nurseangela wrote:
Ganondox wrote:
LoveNotHate wrote:
Ganondox wrote:
This entire post is based on a fundamental misunderstanding of macroeconomics. You can't just produce homes and cars with debut, someone had to build it all. The debt is just a reflection of long-term production in the short-term. The fact America consumes a lot means America MUST be very productive. You simply can't consume without producing because on the macrolevel they are one and the same.
"Consumption" is not production.
If I buy a home this year, then that sale goes into the GDP.
If next year I sell, and someone else buys that same home, that sale goes into the GDP.
If another person buys that same home, that sale goes into the GDP.
One home could mean millions dollars of "GDP growth". Despite the home actually declining in value.
What part of "on the macrolevel" don't you understand? It's fundamentally different form microeconomics because it's a closed system. You can't use microeconomic arguments like an individual's actions for macroeconomics.
nurseangela wrote:
Ganondox wrote:
nurseangela wrote:
Barchan wrote:
nurseangela wrote:
All that Obama and the Left has done is to separate the races even more than they were before. Great job! And that's another reason I voted for Trump - to Make America Great Again!! ! !
And yet, comments you've made in the past about Muslims gives me doubts that you've taken America's values of religious liberty to heart.
Actually right now, I believe we should deport illegals (I don't care what race or religion) and close the borders down to all immigration. Then Immigration can begin again in an orderly fashion once the borders are secure. So, no, not just Muslims. Does that make you happier?
You clearly know NOTHING about how immigration works. Shutting down out borders would devastate our country because on a day to day basis immigration is extremely important for our economy. It would be a human rights disaster because this would ruin the lives of countless people who need to travel across the border regularly. Finally it would just be the worst foreign policy disaster the US has ever had and it would make literally every other country hate the US. Shutting down the borders is about the absolute stupidest thing we could do.
(Also, how are we supposed to close down the borders if they aren't secure? If you shut down the borders ONLY illegal immigrants would enter the US)
I said when the borders are secure.
Do you know when all the Ebola stuff was going on, we were the only nation that didn't close our borders? All other countries have no problem closing their borders. We didn't even stop flights coming in from high risk zones. Nuts.
No, you didn't. You said the borders should be REOPENED once they are secure.
Pretty sure that Ebola claim is a blatant lie and I'm pretty sure I actually did international traveling during that time period. Unless you mean "only country with an ebola infestation" and that's because 1. the outbreak was relatively extremely small in the US and 2. the other countries weren't nearly as involved in the global economy as the US is.
https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/to- ... s/?0p19G=c
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/travel/trave ... ights.html
And somewhere, I can't find it now, I know that England started closing its borders to incoming flights. I was an expert on the Ebola crap, so much so, that I lost my job over it. So don't tell me I'm wrong unless you know for damn sure that I am and back it up with reasonable sources.
I'm rude? You're the one calling people names and saying they are wrong and you are always right. I don't think you know what rude means.
And another thing, I hate rudeness. I didn't become rude until I came to this site and posted in the PPR section. This site has some of the most rudest people I have ever met in my entire life. Sometimes you have to fight fire with fire and that's what I try to do. Otherwise, in real life, I'm a lady.
There is huge difference between closing airports to a particular country, and closing down the borders. The first is something we do all the time, the second is something completely unreasonable because it would throttle the global economy. Again, it's pretty obvious you don't understand how immigration works, as the ebola thing is something completely different.
I only called one person I a name, and I said that was mistake. Meanwhile, you continue to insult all liberals in an extremely childish. I also specifically said I'm not always right, the problem is YOUR attitude. The only reason I've been rude to you is because you were rude first.I highly doubt you're not rude in life.
I'm not insulting anyone. Sorry if telling what is happening in the news is upsetting to you. Liberals are extremely insulting and doing obnoxious behavior at this time, so any news about them is going to sound insulting.
You should read my Truth thread because I tried to keep it a clean debate thread and that's probably why it stayed open so long, however, I had to turn people in right and left because of the crap they said to me and the names they called me. Those people are the rude ones.
17 Nov 2016, 7:03 am
17 Nov 2016, 7:08 am
I wrote a long reply, but lost it and I have other things to do right now. Maybe I'll compose something again when this site starts working right or when some hot news becomes available.
Time to knit and watch some reality TV.
Last edited by nurseangela on 17 Nov 2016, 7:10 am, edited 1 time in total.
17 Nov 2016, 7:09 am
17 Nov 2016, 7:09 am
nurseangela wrote:
I wrote a long reply, but lost it and I have other things to do right now. Maybe I'll compose something again when this site starts working right.
Time to knit and watch some reality TV.
Time to knit and watch some reality TV.
Maybe you should just not as this is all completely off topic and we already established how mad we are at each other.
17 Nov 2016, 7:17 am
17 Nov 2016, 7:19 am
Ganondox wrote:
nurseangela wrote:
I wrote a long reply, but lost it and I have other things to do right now. Maybe I'll compose something again when this site starts working right.
Time to knit and watch some reality TV.
Time to knit and watch some reality TV.
Maybe you should just not as this is all completely off topic and we already established how mad we are at each other.
You think I'm mad?
I'm a Taurus. When I get mad, it's like a bull in a China shop.
Last edited by nurseangela on 17 Nov 2016, 7:20 am, edited 1 time in total.
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