Overuse of Nazi comparisons

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IMHO people in the middle should not be using extreme description of people unless it applies.

Trump is either a bigot or is not a bigot who deliberately appeals to bigots just as bad as far as consequences go. What Trump is not is a Nazi or even Naziesque. No evidence he wants to systematically murder a group of people. His instinct is isolationist not conquer the world. What he has is plenty of authoritarian instincts probably enough to be called an authoritarian and that is really bad in and of itself. What he has been doing with the election is the scariest most dangerous thing I have seen a President do and I was alive for Nixon. If people want to think I am in denial because I argue against calling him a Nazi they have the right to their opinion.

While that's true in some contexts that's really not how they've been used here in recent memory.

Please tell me how him saying "we should sacrifice the elderly and the disabled" when talking about the corona and who to save not Nazi?


Does this not sound like genocide to you?

He wants to get rid of certain people and wanted to use the virus for it.

I understand what you mean.

Yes humans do tend to find groups of people who share their views and ideologies. Like non racists tend to not be around racists and it's the same for racists as well.

Just like how I was shocked how all my ex's friends were all idiots because they shared the same deluded ideologies about relationships and human life as he did. One person told me online in chat "idiots tend to find other idiots to hang out with."

People subconsciously find groups of people who share their same beliefs.
I also have seen what happens to people when they want to be contrary.

This makes it sound like the only way to be a nazi is to literally go and murder jews while conquering the world. If you haven't actually murdered scores of jews, and aren't actively trying to conquer the world, you can't be a nazi, apparently...

Nazi germany didn't start out trying to conquer the world. They started out trying to "make germany great again". And they didn't start out with murdering jews - they started with stuffing "relocating" them into ghettos and camps, "for the good of everyone".

Trump himself doesn't HAVE to murder anyone - all he has to do it point at someone, and his army of kobolds will go get em. Or, y'know, cripple the healthcare system during a pandemic, that works too. Don't have to kill em if you can just "let em die".

By the above logic, even someone who worships hitler, wishes nazi germany had won, literally calls themselves a nazi, and given the chance, would murder jews by the score if it weren't illegal to do so, still isn't *actually* a nazi, since they haven't *actually* murdered dozens of jews...

Trump, like most entitled power-seekers, doesn't actually do anything himself. Clean hands that way. That's where dog whistles come in. Imply that something "should happen" or "could happen", and let his cult of kobolds run with the idea. It's amazing to see his orange puckered baboon-ass face when he denies saying something that we just watched him say, and can watch him say again, cos it was recorded. Like a kid lying about stealing a cookie, while they're holding the cookie. That's literally how The Big Lie works. Stick to it, even in the face of obvious evidence to the contrary. "No I didn't!" A nazi tactic. They may not have invented it, but they sure popularized it.

Bigots come in many flavors. Comparing them to popularized well-known groups helps identify what flavor of bigotry they are.

Any negative term can be subverted to stifle criticism. It's called an ad-hominem attack. The word does not have to be "nazi" in order to work. It also ignores the real possibility that the "criticism" that's being "stifled" IS in fact a nazi or klan or otherwise bigoted idea. While I'm sure in peoples' imaginations, they can envision situations where all someone has to do is call someone else a nazi, and everyone immediately and unquestionably joins in the chant nazi! nazi! refusing to hear another word and running them out of town with pitchforks and torches never to be seen again, and everyone started to slow-clap... but I can't say I've ever actually seen this happen in the real world, outside of internet troll nests. If everyone were that gullible to begin with, we'd probably still have actual literal witch trials, and stage magicians would be executed on sight for their "dark arts".

Technically that would be democide. Genocide implies racial or ethnic motives.

And democide isn't Nazism?

Where did I say that?

I was just pointing out that genocide is defined by it's motives and that intentional or negligent mass killings with other motives have other terms to describe them.

But to address your question, no genocide isn't inherently 'Nazi'. One can be a Nazi even without committing genocide and one who has committed genocide still might not be a Nazi even if they're just as terrible as Nazis were.

You didn't. I was asking for those who think Trump isn't Nazi.

Video on tolerating the intolerance:

When did say that?
The man has referenced "good genes" horrific, but I have not seen him reference wanting to eliminate inferior races. A eugenicist would probably not be against a women's right to choose an abortion.

That said ageism has been a problem with this pandemic all along

To favor democide one has to think about someone other than themselves, that is not Trump. He wanted to open the economy so he would be reelected, if people died so be it. That is not the same as having systematically killing groups of people be central to your worldview.

He said that back in the Spring, Glen Beck also said it too and the Texas Gov and yes I thought it was very Nazi of them too. Then Trump said it and I remember saying on here "does that mean him too because he is also in his 70s."

I took a long break from WP because I was called a Nazi by a couple of members. I also stopped using Germany related avatars in order to blend in, so I wouldn't be called a Nazi. I told myself that I will forgive those members and come back to WP after Remembrance Day 2020 using whichever avatar I wanted. It feels strange to be posting instead of working on my hobbies, but Sunday is now my day of rest.

I love that flag.

WP should have a Like button.

Calling most Trump supporters Nazis is like calling most liberals Commies.....

I’m glad Trump is gone. I hope Biden begins to heal our wounds.