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14 Jul 2010, 7:35 pm

Sand wrote:

One very important point about expletives is that the reason they have any power at all is that they are disruptive and socially impolite. That is their essence and their basic utility and to remove powerful expletives from language is to castrate it.

f*****g right.

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15 Jul 2010, 2:17 am

if god somehow erased all profanity from human consciousness, some cussed fella would simply reinvent it, using available words in a pointedly warped fashion.

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15 Jul 2010, 2:26 am

Sand wrote:

they are disruptive and socially impolite.

Aspies often are too, so is that why foul language appeals to some Aspies?

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15 Jul 2010, 2:27 am

This is bloody great news. Bugger the FCC and their censoring ways.

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15 Jul 2010, 2:57 am

i am tired of america being the only western nation to be so nambypamby when it comes to swearing.

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15 Jul 2010, 3:09 am

iamnotaparakeet wrote:

Sand wrote:

they are disruptive and socially impolite.

Aspies often are too, so is that why foul language appeals to some Aspies?

No, not at all. Many aspies are quite bright and when there is an influx of profusely stupid comment, especially in areas such as economics or religion, expletives become quite handy in expressing emotions about frightful examples of ignorance, gullibility or just outright stupidity. It relieves a good deal of emotional pressure.

Anybody too dumb to know what f***, sh**, etc. means is not worth arguing with anyway. Even four year olds are quite familiar with the correct spelling.

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15 Jul 2010, 3:24 am

What is profanity?
In "Gone With the Wind" they just barely got away with the word "damn"

In the 1960's a disc jockey called Wolfman Jack got the boot for saying the word "booger".

The British consider the word "bloody" to be offensive although I am darned if I can see why.
In America a bum is a tramp but in England it is a rude word for bottom.

One of the biggest howlers:
An American girl will think nothing of saying "I am going out to root for the football team".
Try saying that in England or Australia where root means to have sex.

An early maker of flush toilets in England was named Crapper.
So people would be polite by saying "I am going to visit the crapper"

Now in America they give school kids a hard time if they say "That is so gay".
So gay used to mean happy and then was associated with homosexuals but to the kids it just means silly or tacky.

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18 Jul 2010, 2:57 pm

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21 Jul 2010, 4:14 pm

Sand wrote:

True. And by the same token, removing taboos against expletives reduces their power, which is also rather like castrating the language. The original post only referred to people who wanted to remove expletives from the airwaves (in other words, reinforce the taboo against expletives), not remove them from the language altogether.

I know some people can appear incredibly prudish about bad language on the airwaves, but maybe others should try to understand that there is some reasoning behind it all.

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21 Jul 2010, 5:49 pm

codarac wrote:

Sand wrote:

I don't find much benefit to it, though. There word isn't as impactful as its context and characteristics. I'm sure we've all heard Mel Gibson say a handful of various expletives before but when he used those same expletives in his phone rant to his ex-girlfriend, there was an entire other level because of context and how the words were said.

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21 Jul 2010, 11:09 pm

codarac wrote:

Sand wrote:

True. And by the same token, removing taboos against expletives reduces their power, which is also rather like castrating the language.

Actually, not. Over here we use "s**t" and "f**k" word equivalents in our daily speech to emphasize emotions just like Sand points out, and no one seems to make a fuzz about it. But then again, our country wasn't populated by religious fundamentalists who are scared of everything.

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21 Jul 2010, 11:37 pm

Ichinin wrote:

codarac wrote:

Sand wrote:

True. And by the same token, removing taboos against expletives reduces their power, which is also rather like castrating the language.

Actually, not. Over here we use "sh**" and "f**k" word equivalents in our daily speech to emphasize emotions just like Sand points out, and no one seems to make a fuzz about it. But then again, our country wasn't populated by religious fundamentalists who are scared of everything.

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21 Jul 2010, 11:46 pm

Sand wrote:

iamnotaparakeet wrote:

Sand wrote:

they are disruptive and socially impolite.

Aspies often are too, so is that why foul language appeals to some Aspies?

Being bright, meaning having knowledge and understanding in one field or another, does not negate personal characteristics of being disruptive or being considered socially impolite. Depending on the type of company around though, such as ones which judge people solely upon their appearance, like hiring managers who are more interested in bra size or tax benefits than ability to work or think, an Aspie can be considered socially out of place just by mannerisms which are not the norm. After prolonged treatment in this manner, expletives, invectives, and maledictions may come forth in overwhelming abundance.

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21 Jul 2010, 11:54 pm

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Lay of the drugs.

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22 Jul 2010, 12:01 am

Ichinin wrote:

iamnotaparakeet wrote:

Lay of the drugs.

Psychotropicum non habeo et non utor. Verbas meas veras est, sed non dividua est.

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22 Jul 2010, 12:13 am

iamnotaparakeet wrote:

Ichinin wrote:

iamnotaparakeet wrote:

Lay of the drugs.

Psychotropicum non habeo et non utor. Verbas meas veras est, sed non dividua est.

There is a rumor that people on drugs tend to speak Latin but, evidence to the contrary, it seems unlikely.

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