Bethie
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30 Mar 2011, 10:23 am
30 Mar 2011, 10:27 am
30 Mar 2011, 10:28 am
30 Mar 2011, 12:35 pm
30 Mar 2011, 12:42 pm
Bethie wrote:
Inuyasha wrote:
How about liberals stop with the bull**** known as class warfare and stop spending worse than a drunken sailor.
We can talk about class warfare when you acknowledge being born poor in America is often a death sentence.
Only if they choose for it to be a death sentence, it isn't the cards you are dealt in life, it is how you play those cards.
skafather84 wrote:
He knows jack sh** about that and about life for most people. He's obviously a sheltered individual who's lived a life of luck.
Whatever...
You don't know anything about my life. xenon13 wrote:
That is false and is a favourite propaganda gambit to promote "learned helplessness". The rich are just so powerful that if we try to tax them, they'll drop out, punish us, or download their taxes on the rest of us, so it's useless, they're beyond any reach. They become gods, so to speak... all powerful, responsible for all prosperity, easy to anger, and they must be worshipped and any cross word towards them shall be punished most severely. The job of politicians is to find the way to carry out ceremonies for them, say the right prayers, show the devotion and the failed politicians are those who attract the Wrath.
Get this through your head, government DOES NOT CREATE WEALTH! People create wealth, by creating businesses, and yeah rich people will move away from places if you start overtaxing them, and/or simply sit on their money and suddenly you can't tax them and the economy in the area goes to hell in a handbasket.
Most rich people are 1st generation, meaning they started out as middle class or from poverty and worked their ways into becoming rich. Your demonization is extremely dishonest and disgusting.
30 Mar 2011, 12:51 pm
30 Mar 2011, 12:54 pm
Kraichgauer
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30 Mar 2011, 1:03 pm
30 Mar 2011, 1:08 pm
Kraichgauer wrote:
Those poor who are just "eaters" are in fact consumers. They keep they engine of capitalism going. And thus are just as important as job creators.
-Bill, otherwise known as Kraichgauer
-Bill, otherwise known as Kraichgauer
The can still get themselves a job. We need to be exporting more finished products to other countries so we don't have a trade deficit.
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30 Mar 2011, 1:14 pm
Inuyasha wrote:
Kraichgauer wrote:
Those poor who are just "eaters" are in fact consumers. They keep they engine of capitalism going. And thus are just as important as job creators.
-Bill, otherwise known as Kraichgauer
-Bill, otherwise known as Kraichgauer
The can still get themselves a job. We need to be exporting more finished products to other countries so we don't have a trade deficit.
There is such a thing as the working poor. And then there are those who would like to work, but there either isn't any work available, or they have been unemployed so long, no will hire them (which has happened to me personally).
And then you have women with children who stay at home, but who do have maybe the most important job in the world - they're called mothers.
-Bill, otherwise known as Kraichgauer
30 Mar 2011, 1:26 pm
30 Mar 2011, 1:29 pm
Kraichgauer wrote:
Inuyasha wrote:
Kraichgauer wrote:
Those poor who are just "eaters" are in fact consumers. They keep they engine of capitalism going. And thus are just as important as job creators.
-Bill, otherwise known as Kraichgauer
-Bill, otherwise known as Kraichgauer
The can still get themselves a job. We need to be exporting more finished products to other countries so we don't have a trade deficit.
There is such a thing as the working poor. And then there are those who would like to work, but there either isn't any work available, or they have been unemployed so long, no will hire them (which has happened to me personally).
And then you have women with children who stay at home, but who do have maybe the most important job in the world - they're called mothers.
-Bill, otherwise known as Kraichgauer
And I have no problem with the working poor, if we're looking at an individual that is struggling still despite holding a job, then yeah I see no problem in them being helped out.
30 Mar 2011, 1:31 pm
Inuyasha wrote:
Kraichgauer wrote:
Inuyasha wrote:
Kraichgauer wrote:
Those poor who are just "eaters" are in fact consumers. They keep they engine of capitalism going. And thus are just as important as job creators.
-Bill, otherwise known as Kraichgauer
-Bill, otherwise known as Kraichgauer
The can still get themselves a job. We need to be exporting more finished products to other countries so we don't have a trade deficit.
There is such a thing as the working poor. And then there are those who would like to work, but there either isn't any work available, or they have been unemployed so long, no will hire them (which has happened to me personally).
And then you have women with children who stay at home, but who do have maybe the most important job in the world - they're called mothers.
-Bill, otherwise known as Kraichgauer
And I have no problem with the working poor, if we're looking at an individual that is struggling still despite holding a job, then yeah I see no problem in them being helped out.
The whole NAIRU concept almost guarantees that there will be a large demographic of people who don't even get to qualify to be 'working poor'
Kraichgauer
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30 Mar 2011, 1:33 pm
Inuyasha wrote:
Kraichgauer wrote:
Inuyasha wrote:
Kraichgauer wrote:
Those poor who are just "eaters" are in fact consumers. They keep they engine of capitalism going. And thus are just as important as job creators.
-Bill, otherwise known as Kraichgauer
-Bill, otherwise known as Kraichgauer
The can still get themselves a job. We need to be exporting more finished products to other countries so we don't have a trade deficit.
There is such a thing as the working poor. And then there are those who would like to work, but there either isn't any work available, or they have been unemployed so long, no will hire them (which has happened to me personally).
And then you have women with children who stay at home, but who do have maybe the most important job in the world - they're called mothers.
-Bill, otherwise known as Kraichgauer
And I have no problem with the working poor, if we're looking at an individual that is struggling still despite holding a job, then yeah I see no problem in them being helped out.
And in the meantime, I presume we just let the rest of the poor, and their children, die because they're not working?
-Bill, otherwise known as Kraichgauer
30 Mar 2011, 1:36 pm
Kraichgauer wrote:
Inuyasha wrote:
Kraichgauer wrote:
Inuyasha wrote:
Kraichgauer wrote:
Those poor who are just "eaters" are in fact consumers. They keep they engine of capitalism going. And thus are just as important as job creators.
-Bill, otherwise known as Kraichgauer
-Bill, otherwise known as Kraichgauer
The can still get themselves a job. We need to be exporting more finished products to other countries so we don't have a trade deficit.
There is such a thing as the working poor. And then there are those who would like to work, but there either isn't any work available, or they have been unemployed so long, no will hire them (which has happened to me personally).
And then you have women with children who stay at home, but who do have maybe the most important job in the world - they're called mothers.
-Bill, otherwise known as Kraichgauer
And I have no problem with the working poor, if we're looking at an individual that is struggling still despite holding a job, then yeah I see no problem in them being helped out.
And in the meantime, I presume we just let the rest of the poor, and their children, die because they're not working?
-Bill, otherwise known as Kraichgauer
If the mother is just a welfare queen that sits on the couch all day, then I would say take the children away from her and not let her collect the welfare money on those kids. I'm not saying we should let the kids die, jeeze contrary to the left's talking points Republicans do not view children as being culpable for the crimes of their parents.
30 Mar 2011, 1:44 pm
Inuyasha wrote:
Kraichgauer wrote:
Inuyasha wrote:
Kraichgauer wrote:
Inuyasha wrote:
Kraichgauer wrote:
Those poor who are just "eaters" are in fact consumers. They keep they engine of capitalism going. And thus are just as important as job creators.
-Bill, otherwise known as Kraichgauer
-Bill, otherwise known as Kraichgauer
The can still get themselves a job. We need to be exporting more finished products to other countries so we don't have a trade deficit.
There is such a thing as the working poor. And then there are those who would like to work, but there either isn't any work available, or they have been unemployed so long, no will hire them (which has happened to me personally).
And then you have women with children who stay at home, but who do have maybe the most important job in the world - they're called mothers.
-Bill, otherwise known as Kraichgauer
And I have no problem with the working poor, if we're looking at an individual that is struggling still despite holding a job, then yeah I see no problem in them being helped out.
And in the meantime, I presume we just let the rest of the poor, and their children, die because they're not working?
-Bill, otherwise known as Kraichgauer
If the mother is just a welfare queen that sits on the couch all day, then I would say take the children away from her and not let her collect the welfare money on those kids. I'm not saying we should let the kids die, jeeze contrary to the left's talking points Republicans do not view children as being culpable for the crimes of their parents.
For the record, I have never, ever met a mother who just sits on the couch all day.
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