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26 Dec 2013, 9:57 pm

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While there are of course frivolous law suits, the majority of them are in fact legit. Take away the ordinary individual's right to redress wrongs in the civil realm, and all of us will be at the mercy of powerful individuals and organizations who will be able to act badly without any fear of the repercussions.

what the righties gloss over, is the historical fact that if you take away legal redress, all that remains is IL-legal redress.


The rich and powerful seriously need to consider what people might be driven to if they no longer have anything to lose.

there will always be those who make it past the gauntlet of rich goons' bullets. the righties ignore this at their peril.


The chances of the U.S. government being overthrown by a popular insurrection, is down in the noise.

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26 Dec 2013, 10:02 pm

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The chances of the U.S. government being overthrown by a popular insurrection, is down in the noise.

I am far more worried about the corporate bullies than I am about our relatively impotent government [in terms of regulating the corporate bullies].



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26 Dec 2013, 10:47 pm

this is exactly why Monsanto bought Blackwater.


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26 Dec 2013, 11:14 pm

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this is exactly why Monsanto bought Blackwater.


Now THAT is an unholy coupling.


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26 Dec 2013, 11:29 pm

Monsanto is sufficiently unholy all by its lonesome, now it has become evil cubed.



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27 Dec 2013, 12:35 pm

auntblabby wrote:
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The chances of the U.S. government being overthrown by a popular insurrection, is down in the noise.

I am far more worried about the corporate bullies than I am about our relatively impotent government [in terms of regulating the corporate bullies].


The corporations have already bought and paid for our government several times over. You are a bit late in worrying about it. It has already happened.

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06 Jan 2014, 10:07 am

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I record technical books for the blind and dyslexic. I do not make a cent from it. It is all volunteer work. I also have donated over 20 gallons of blood and or platelets in my lifetime. I have not received a penny for it, nor did I ask for money.

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I'm only up to 11 gallons and a pint. But I'm working on it.


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06 Jan 2014, 3:01 pm

nobody wants my blood because I am on too many scripts.



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06 Jan 2014, 3:18 pm

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nobody wants my blood because I am on too many scripts.


I have a friend who used to donate plasma, despite having to take a pharmacy full of medications. The need for money was just too great, so he lied when asked if he was taking anything.


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06 Jan 2014, 3:27 pm

Kraichgauer wrote:
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nobody wants my blood because I am on too many scripts.


I have a friend who used to donate plasma, despite having to take a pharmacy full of medications. The need for money was just too great, so he lied when asked if he was taking anything.

before they take blood they test it, at least at the hospital I used to work for. they would prick my finger and put the drop into this vial, and if it did something [can't remember what] that was a sign that the blood was not suitable for donation.



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06 Jan 2014, 3:34 pm

auntblabby wrote:
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nobody wants my blood because I am on too many scripts.


I have a friend who used to donate plasma, despite having to take a pharmacy full of medications. The need for money was just too great, so he lied when asked if he was taking anything.

before they take blood they test it, at least at the hospital I used to work for. they would prick my finger and put the drop into this vial, and if it did something [can't remember what] that was a sign that the blood was not suitable for donation.


This was just at a plasma center. I don't know if they have all the facilities of a hospital.


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06 Jan 2014, 3:57 pm

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This was just at a plasma center. I don't know if they have all the facilities of a hospital.

plus I was told that people taking beta blockers [me] should never donate blood, they gave me a technical explanation which went over my head but involved blood volume.



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06 Jan 2014, 5:35 pm

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This was just at a plasma center. I don't know if they have all the facilities of a hospital.

plus I was told that people taking beta blockers [me] should never donate blood, they gave me a technical explanation which went over my head but involved blood volume.


Could you explain what beta blockers are?


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06 Jan 2014, 5:45 pm

Kraichgauer wrote:
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This was just at a plasma center. I don't know if they have all the facilities of a hospital.

plus I was told that people taking beta blockers [me] should never donate blood, they gave me a technical explanation which went over my head but involved blood volume.


Could you explain what beta blockers are?

for treatment of high blood pressure. wikibrain says this-
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Beta_blocker



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06 Jan 2014, 5:51 pm

auntblabby wrote:
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This was just at a plasma center. I don't know if they have all the facilities of a hospital.

plus I was told that people taking beta blockers [me] should never donate blood, they gave me a technical explanation which went over my head but involved blood volume.


Could you explain what beta blockers are?

for treatment of high blood pressure. wikibrain says this-
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Beta_blocker


Chances are, I'm taking the same thing, then.


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06 Jan 2014, 6:36 pm

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(clicky)this is what happens to a nation when the profit motive is the only motive

it was affordable till the government got involved

you can also thank the million dollar lawsuits for malpractice and the AMA for the high prices but on the flipside if you have money the best quality healthcare in the world is in the united states

but the aforementioned paradox is despite having the fanciest gold-plated healthcare for the rich, they are still less healthy on average, than their European and Asian brethren.


The health of a nation is not purely dependent on the quality of medical care. There are cultural factors:
eating habits, exercise habits, smoking and consumption of alcoholic beverages. With an unhealthy life style all the doctors in the world will not make that much difference. If one does not exercise, then one will not function properly and medical care won't help much. If one smokes one is damaging one's health and medical care will matter little except to diagnose the inevitable decline of the cardiovascular system


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