29 Jan 2014, 7:05 pm
29 Jan 2014, 8:06 pm
This is a taste of what you missed by not living in a Warsaw Pact nation.
29 Jan 2014, 11:05 pm
Raptor wrote:
This is a taste of what you missed by not living in a Warsaw Pact nation.
Class of '14...
Latest Fashion...
Fine Dining...
30 Jan 2014, 12:01 am
This one aint Warsaw Pact. I see a Union Jack in the background and the gun nut in me noticed both of those guys are holding Browning P35's (a.k.a Browning Hi-Power) which were not used in any countries on that side of the iron curtain. The BDU's they are wearing are DPM (Disruptive Pattern Material) pattern cammo used by the Brits.
Awesome image of the dog, though. 
thomas81
Veteran
Joined: 2 May 2012
Age: 44
Gender: Male
Posts: 5,147
Location: County Down, Northern Ireland
30 Jan 2014, 8:31 am
30 Jan 2014, 11:18 am
thomas81 wrote:
its all emotive hysteria though.
Please offer something more substantive than spamming with images.
Please offer something more substantive than spamming with images.
Yes, of course. What do barb wire fences, guard towers, and gulags have to do with communism?
What were we thinking.
30 Jan 2014, 11:38 am
zer0netgain wrote:
(look at the policies of the Democratic party and compare them with the planks of socialism).
You are either ignorant of the policies of the Democratic Party, ignorant of the "planks of communism", or, most likely, both.
Raptor wrote:
thomas81 wrote:
its all emotive hysteria though.
Please offer something more substantive than spamming with images.
Please offer something more substantive than spamming with images.
Yes, of course. What do barb wire fences, guard towers, and gulags have to do with communism?
What were we thinking.
Because there are no barbed wire fences, guard towers, or gulag-equivalents west of the Curtain.
[img][800:1090]http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/7/74/Camp_Delta,_Guantanamo_Bay,_Cuba.jpg[/img]
(That is not a criticism of capitalism. It is me pointing out that your criticism of communism is invalid. It is a criticism of the USA and its allies which endorse such practices, just as your "gulag" criticism would be better served as a criticism of the authoritarian tendencies of the Eastern Bloc rather than their economic policies)
On topic: I think it would have been better if the Cold War had never been fought. Afghanistan would probably still be Communist rather than run by woman-hating terrorists (and thus there would not have been the recent bloody war there, and 9/11 may well have never happened), the Vietnam war would never have been thought, the anti-nuclear generation would have protested for other causes, the USA wouldn't be plagued by McCarthyism (and the major political parties would probably be clustered around the centre, rather than on the right), Cuba would benefit from freer trade, and likewise the Eastern Bloc would probably have benefitted from laxer borders.
30 Jan 2014, 11:39 am
Raptor wrote:
thomas81 wrote:
its all emotive hysteria though. Please offer something more substantive than spamming with images.
Yes, of course. What do barb wire fences, guard towers, and gulags have to do with communism? What were we thinking.Oh, shame on us for even implying that a communist state would be anything less than a utopian paradise.
Two words: "Gulag Archipelago".
30 Jan 2014, 11:45 am
The_Walrus wrote:
Raptor wrote:
Yes, of course. What do barb wire fences, guard towers, and gulags have to do with communism?
What were we thinking.
What were we thinking.
Because there are no barbed wire fences, guard towers, or gulag-equivalents west of the Curtain.
1. The iron curtain is no longer.
2. All of your kind consider incarceration to be passé except, of course, for the enemies of collectivism.
30 Jan 2014, 11:49 am
Raptor wrote:
The_Walrus wrote:
Raptor wrote:
Yes, of course. What do barb wire fences, guard towers, and gulags have to do with communism?
What were we thinking.
What were we thinking.
Because there are no barbed wire fences, guard towers, or gulag-equivalents west of the Curtain.
1. The iron curtain is no longer.
2. All of your kind consider incarceration to be passé except, of course, for the enemies of collectivism.
What "kind" is that? Have you surveyed them? Has someone else?
30 Jan 2014, 11:53 am
Raptor wrote:
thomas81 wrote:
its all emotive hysteria though.
Please offer something more substantive than spamming with images.
Please offer something more substantive than spamming with images.
Yes, of course. What do barb wire fences, guard towers, and gulags have to do with communism?
What were we thinking.
As the country in the world with the most percentage of its citizens living in prison-gulags, (having barb wire fences and guard towers as far as I know), does that mean, that the USA has adapted communism, according to your logic?
30 Jan 2014, 12:36 pm
Schneekugel wrote:
Raptor wrote:
thomas81 wrote:
its all emotive hysteria though.
Please offer something more substantive than spamming with images.
Please offer something more substantive than spamming with images.
Yes, of course. What do barb wire fences, guard towers, and gulags have to do with communism?
What were we thinking.
As the country in the world with the most percentage of its citizens living in prison-gulags, (having barb wire fences and guard towers as far as I know), does that mean, that the USA has adapted communism, according to your logic?
We don't imprison people for speaking out against the system or our national leaders like communist countries are notorious for. If we did we'd have to turn the whole country into a prison. Yes, I know that the left already sees the USA as a prison.
Admittedly, we have a lot of people imprisoned for silly shi+ like drug related crimes or as a result of prosecutors overcharging. I would fix both of those problems if it were in my power.
luanqibazao
Veteran
Joined: 13 Jan 2014
Age: 60
Gender: Male
Posts: 754
Location: Last booth, Akston's Diner
30 Jan 2014, 1:07 pm
30 Jan 2014, 5:28 pm
Schneekugel wrote:
Raptor wrote:
thomas81 wrote:
its all emotive hysteria though.
Please offer something more substantive than spamming with images.
Please offer something more substantive than spamming with images.
Yes, of course. What do barb wire fences, guard towers, and gulags have to do with communism?
What were we thinking.
As the country in the world with the most percentage of its citizens living in prison-gulags, (having barb wire fences and guard towers as far as I know), does that mean, that the USA has adapted communism, according to your logic?
I'd much rather be in an American prison where I'd get 2,800 calories per day, a bed with clean sheets and access to a gym, a library and free education than in a gulag where I'd have to do forced labour for 12 hours per day, get 1,000 calories to eat, and still be expected to be grateful towards the megalomaniac that put me there.
30 Jan 2014, 5:47 pm
Raptor wrote:
Schneekugel wrote:
Raptor wrote:
thomas81 wrote:
its all emotive hysteria though.
Please offer something more substantive than spamming with images.
Please offer something more substantive than spamming with images.
Yes, of course. What do barb wire fences, guard towers, and gulags have to do with communism?
What were we thinking.
As the country in the world with the most percentage of its citizens living in prison-gulags, (having barb wire fences and guard towers as far as I know), does that mean, that the USA has adapted communism, according to your logic?
We don't imprison people for speaking out against the system.
Tripe.
en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Smith_Act_trials_of_communist_party_leaders
30 Jan 2014, 9:19 pm
The_Walrus wrote:
Raptor wrote:
Schneekugel wrote:
Raptor wrote:
thomas81 wrote:
its all emotive hysteria though.
Please offer something more substantive than spamming with images.
Please offer something more substantive than spamming with images.
Yes, of course. What do barb wire fences, guard towers, and gulags have to do with communism?
What were we thinking.
As the country in the world with the most percentage of its citizens living in prison-gulags, (having barb wire fences and guard towers as far as I know), does that mean, that the USA has adapted communism, according to your logic?
We don't imprison people for speaking out against the system.
Tripe.
en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Smith_Act_trials_of_communist_party_leaders
Tripe?
I only had to read the first sentence where it gave the time frame: 1949–1958. What that means is it ended 56 years ago. What I said is that we don't imprison people for speaking out against the system which is still true. Don't is present tense. If I said we never have then you'd have a point.
