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17 Mar 2016, 9:12 am

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It's not a threat - it is the truth. The People are speaking what they want and if someone who isn't even in the running like Paul Ryan or Jeb Bush gets the nomination because of a brokered convention, there will be riots. It would be the same if it was happening to the Left so quit making Trump out to be the bad guy.


Half the right thinks trump's a bad guy....or at least a bad candidate, its a fringe group of right wingers who want trump. And where is your evidence the supporters of any democratic candidates are going to riot if their candidate doesn't get the nomination? Is Bernie or Hillary saying 'there will be riots, should I not get the nomination'?


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17 Mar 2016, 9:13 am

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IOW the party will be split along its fault lines.

^this seems a very likely outcome.


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17 Mar 2016, 9:19 am

nurseangela wrote:
It's not a threat - it is the truth. The People are speaking what they want and if someone who isn't even in the running like Paul Ryan or Jeb Bush gets the nomination because of a brokered convention, there will be riots. It would be the same if it was happening to the Left so quit making Trump out to be the bad guy.

The people don't actually choose who gets to be the Republican (or Democratic) nominee, the party does. They set the rules. There doesn't have to be any nationwide voting at all. They could pick who they want, and Trump is free to run as an independent. You still get to vote for Trump, he just wouldn't have an R after his name.



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17 Mar 2016, 9:20 am

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But according to TIME magazine, rioting is a good thing:

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It's a good thing only when the Left does it - only then is rioting justified. :roll:


I don't believe rioting is good or justified regardless of what side does it, and I'm still on the left. Does anyone else here on the left think rioting is good or justified if it's people on the left doing it?

Time magazine says lots of things...it's not a representation of what everyone on the left thinks.


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17 Mar 2016, 9:23 am

In my opinion, Mr. Trump is a bully. In my opinion, those who idolize him may be bullies or closet bullies themselves. In my opinion, if Mr. Trump loses the election, those who idolize him will riot with or without his approval - much like the fans of a team that loses the Super Bowl.



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17 Mar 2016, 9:31 am

Sweetleaf wrote:
nurseangela wrote:
It's not a threat - it is the truth. The People are speaking what they want and if someone who isn't even in the running like Paul Ryan or Jeb Bush gets the nomination because of a brokered convention, there will be riots. It would be the same if it was happening to the Left so quit making Trump out to be the bad guy.


Half the right thinks trump's a bad guy....or at least a bad candidate, its a fringe group of right wingers who want trump. And where is your evidence the supporters of any democratic candidates are going to riot if their candidate doesn't get the nomination? Is Bernie or Hillary saying 'there will be riots, should I not get the nomination'?


This particular situation is unlikely in the Democratic party this year. Sanders will not be a few votes short of a majority, and if Hillary is a few votes short which is unlikely the party will give her the nomination. It is in the realm of possibility that Trump will be a few votes short of a majority and the party nominates somebody else. The only way Hillary does not get nominated is if she is indicted but I do not see the Obama justice department doing that. The most likely scenario is the republican establishment trying to deny Trump and it ending up in a complete humiliating failure. No moderate third party, most of these voters stay home because they may be RHINO's or moderates but they still despise the Clinton's.


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17 Mar 2016, 9:33 am

They would have the precedent of the 1968 Democratic National Convention riots in Chicago if they did.


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17 Mar 2016, 9:38 am

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They would have the precedent of the 1968 Democratic National Convention riots in Chicago if they did.


I remember watching that, damm I'm old.


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17 Mar 2016, 9:43 am

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In my opinion, Mr. Trump is a bully. In my opinion, those who idolize him may be bullies or closet bullies themselves. In my opinion, if Mr. Trump loses the election, those who idolize him will riot with or without his approval - much like the fans of a team that loses the Super Bowl.


Too impulsive to be nowhere near the nuclear football or whatever they use today.


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17 Mar 2016, 9:44 am

Not to derail the topic, but I remember Bobby Kennedy's assassination watch it all day. Oh, and Dark Shadows (the series, not the insulting Tim Burton movie).


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17 Mar 2016, 10:41 am

It should be interesting. It might be the death of the republican party.i think some european countries have six or seven major political parties.



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17 Mar 2016, 10:41 am

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Not to derail the topic, but I remember Bobby Kennedy's assassination watch it all day. Oh, and Dark Shadows (the series, not the insulting Tim Burton movie).


The 'insulting' Tim Burton movie? I like that movie.....series is probably boring :twisted:


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17 Mar 2016, 10:50 am

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It should be interesting. It might be the death of the republican party.i think some european countries have six or seven major political parties.


That might not be all bad, then the more reasonable ones wont be lumped in with the more extreme ones as much.


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17 Mar 2016, 10:58 am

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Not to derail the topic, but I remember Bobby Kennedy's assassination watch it all day. Oh, and Dark Shadows (the series, not the insulting Tim Burton movie).


Continuing to derail the topic I was in 5th grade when this happened. At that time we had a current events assignment where we had to clip out a newspaper article. The shooting happened after I went to bed. Woke up to the news, ripped up my newspaper article and wrote about the shooting for my assignment, was surprised when no other kid did that. When Martian Luther King was assininated two months earlier people were readying thier guns, convinced the blacks were going to storm our neighborhood and burn it down which never happened. For JFK I was upset my cartoons were not on the air.


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17 Mar 2016, 11:11 am

Trump can't have it both ways.

If he is suggesting that the potential for rioting is because of his supporter's unswerving belief in him, then he is also implying that it is within his power to discourage them.

If he is suggesting that he is powerless to prevent his follower's reaction, then he is implying that they aren't really listening to what he says.

If he is suggesting that his supporters idolise him, yet he has no influence to moderate their reaction, then he is simply contradicting himself.


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17 Mar 2016, 1:50 pm

Candidate Barack Obama claimed in 2008 that he had no knowledge of, and certainly no control over, SEIU labor-union thugs who threatened and attacked others physically (many on security-camera and other recordings).

Pot, kettle and such.


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