What does everyone think about American Exceptionalism?

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03 May 2017, 11:51 pm

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I think there's a sentiment of America being superior as a result of our history of trying to be different than everyone (ie. the Europeans and English). Now that sentiment is starting to fade, at least in most of the Blue states and I can't really speak for the Red states.


Yes, our republican history had led us to become somewhat egotistical about our rights and political system compared to other authoritarian monarchies around the world. But now that democracy is widespread (and some countries are even doing better than us in the political/economic arena) that feeling of national superiority is pretty unjustified. I'm just not a big fan of exceptionalism in general. That can lead to widespread nationalism (feeling your country is superior and should maintain its superiority) which naturally leads to war and imperialism.



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03 May 2017, 11:52 pm

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What do I think about it? I don't think you want to know.

Try to remember a time when you got violently sick and were hunched over the toilet bowl, thinking you were going to die, or worried that you weren't going to die so your misery would end. Imagine having a mouth full of wriggling live worms and insects and being forced to slowly chew and swallow them. Imagine having leeches all over your body feasting on your blood. Imagine walking very slowly through a thick patch of thorn bushes stark naked while experiencing a migraine headache.

That basically sums up to what I think about it. I told you that you didn't want to know. :x


Damn! Now that's so vivid I cringed, maybe you should be a writer or something.



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03 May 2017, 11:54 pm

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In the US schoolchildren are taught that the US won the war of 1812.


Ha! And the British literally burned down the fu**ing whitehouse and left, that's just hilarious.



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04 May 2017, 9:56 am

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The U.S. is now actually nearly a FULL-fledged «communist» nation (and has been for decades). Many «documentaries» regarding this with over-whelming amounts of damning evidence have already been produced.


Ignotum wrote:
Uh... Excuse me? I sincerely hope this is sarcasm. Any more of this "cultural marxism" BS and I'll throw a flipping fit.


TEN PLANKS OF THE COMMUNIST MANIFESTO
Could this be happening in America? If so, how?
http://www.criminalgovernment.com/docs/planks.html



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04 May 2017, 1:22 pm

friedmacguffins wrote:
Ban-Dodger wrote:
The U.S. is now actually nearly a FULL-fledged «communist» nation (and has been for decades). Many «documentaries» regarding this with over-whelming amounts of damning evidence have already been produced.


Ignotum wrote:
Uh... Excuse me? I sincerely hope this is sarcasm. Any more of this "cultural marxism" BS and I'll throw a flipping fit.


TEN PLANKS OF THE COMMUNIST MANIFESTO
Could this be happening in America? If so, how?
http://www.criminalgovernment.com/docs/planks.html


Every state needs to have some measure of control (it seems like those planks measure the amount of control), but that doesn't mean that we're turning into some kind of totalitarian dystopia. The only ones that could apply to the U.S apply only barely. I also find it odd that this article does cite the method but does not cite the correct reason for carrying out said steps in the first place, which is the abolition of money and private property (means of production) from the hands of the bourgeoisie to the proletariat. Read this and skip to page 26 for the original mention of those ten steps. In fact, I'd recommend to anybody to read at least a bit of the Manifesto seeing how influential it was on history. But anyways, I see this as simply another conspiracy theory that people should ignore to focus on the actual dangerous things going on in the world.



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04 May 2017, 1:42 pm

For all the hours of thought I have given, learning how to behave, I'm still satisfied with the Golden Rule.

My pastimes are pretty milquetoast, in all fairness. My presence is not considered off-putting, by animals, children, and vulnerable people. Yet, I am still often accused of being a criminal.

That seems completely arbitrary, to me.

Now, we're going to have to go through dozens more posts, on why it is ok to take from some people and give to others.

The Chinese 'struggle session' is also an example of Communism, and something I don't feel obliged to do. :roll:



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04 May 2017, 1:46 pm

friedmacguffins wrote:
For all the hours of thought I have given, learning how to behave, I'm still satisfied with the Golden Rule.

My pastimes are pretty milquetoast, in all fairness. My presence is not considered off-putting, by animals, children, and vulnerable people. Yet, I am still often accused of being a criminal.

That seems completely arbitrary, to me.

Now, we're going to have to go through dozens more posts, on why it is ok to take from some people and give to others.


I didn't mean to insult you or anything. And I do agree that sometimes it is justified to take from some and give to others, just as violence can sometimes be necessary in service of a greater good. The king wasn't overthrown with a kindly worded and rational letter.