Kraichgauer
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26 Oct 2017, 1:10 pm
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Kraichgauer
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26 Oct 2017, 3:38 pm
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26 Oct 2017, 9:03 pm
Kraichgauer wrote:
EzraS wrote:
Kraichgauer wrote:
EzraS wrote:
Kraichgauer wrote:
EzraS wrote:
Interesting how the hate process shifted form "fags" to "homophobes".
That's because homophobes hate gays because they're different from them. Not much good you can say about homophobes, or any bigots.
It seems pretty much like anything/anyone who's not pro gay is a deplorable homophobe. As in you MUST be in full support or you're a total scumbag human parasite.
Edit: i'll expound on that. If someone was asked how they felt about autistic like me and they said "they creep me out", I would be fine with that, it's an honest answer.
It's not okay to bully or discriminate etc anyone. But a person shouldn't have a pejorative label placed on them for how they honestly feel. They shouldn't have to live in fear because of it. It's not a good way to control society. It's the kind of thing that ends up becoming fascist. Which I believe is exactly what some people want, despite the fact they say they're against fascism. Note, I'm certainly not directing that at you Bill, I'm just speaking in general.
Bigotry is wrong, regardless of what group it's directed at, because every person in that particular group in the bigot's eyes is dehumanized simply for membership in said group. Such bigots would damn the likes of Alan Turing alongside Jeffery Dahmer, taking into consideration only that both were homosexuals. That's no different than a racist seeing no difference between Neil DeGrasse Tyson and a drug dealing murderer belonging to the Bloods street gang simply for the color of their skin. I'm absolutely sure homophobes and racists are being dead honest about their hatred, but that doesn't make it right.
Bigotry is intolerance, which is an unwillingness to accept views, beliefs, or behavior that differ from one's own. Therefore you must accept all views, beliefs or beliefs that differ from yours or you are a bigot. Seems like a catch 22.
I can accept that people have views I know are indefensibly wrong, but that doesn't mean I have to be at peace with those views, or that I shouldn't speak out against them at every opportunity. That's especially the case when that intolerance is directed at not just opinions, but at people who are simply different in race, color, or sexuality.
Pretty much how I feel as well. I accept that I can't control how certain people think but that doesn't mean I can't express that I feel that discrimination is wrong even if they mock or get angry at me. I'd rather be hated for who I am than loved for what I am not.
Kraichgauer wrote:
I think lesbians are viewed as less threatening to the general population. And homophobes are all the more discriminatory to gay men because they think that's the best way to hide what they themselves have hidden in their closets.
Oddly, some homophobes whoop and shout when they see lesbian porn despite how they'll also say "I hate homosexuals!" in the same breath. To them, homosexuality is only if it's male on male romance or sex.
26 Oct 2017, 9:18 pm
26 Oct 2017, 9:37 pm
Kraichgauer
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26 Oct 2017, 11:07 pm
Marknis wrote:
Kraichgauer wrote:
EzraS wrote:
Kraichgauer wrote:
EzraS wrote:
Kraichgauer wrote:
EzraS wrote:
Interesting how the hate process shifted form "fags" to "homophobes".
That's because homophobes hate gays because they're different from them. Not much good you can say about homophobes, or any bigots.
It seems pretty much like anything/anyone who's not pro gay is a deplorable homophobe. As in you MUST be in full support or you're a total scumbag human parasite.
Edit: i'll expound on that. If someone was asked how they felt about autistic like me and they said "they creep me out", I would be fine with that, it's an honest answer.
It's not okay to bully or discriminate etc anyone. But a person shouldn't have a pejorative label placed on them for how they honestly feel. They shouldn't have to live in fear because of it. It's not a good way to control society. It's the kind of thing that ends up becoming fascist. Which I believe is exactly what some people want, despite the fact they say they're against fascism. Note, I'm certainly not directing that at you Bill, I'm just speaking in general.
Bigotry is wrong, regardless of what group it's directed at, because every person in that particular group in the bigot's eyes is dehumanized simply for membership in said group. Such bigots would damn the likes of Alan Turing alongside Jeffery Dahmer, taking into consideration only that both were homosexuals. That's no different than a racist seeing no difference between Neil DeGrasse Tyson and a drug dealing murderer belonging to the Bloods street gang simply for the color of their skin. I'm absolutely sure homophobes and racists are being dead honest about their hatred, but that doesn't make it right.
Bigotry is intolerance, which is an unwillingness to accept views, beliefs, or behavior that differ from one's own. Therefore you must accept all views, beliefs or beliefs that differ from yours or you are a bigot. Seems like a catch 22.
I can accept that people have views I know are indefensibly wrong, but that doesn't mean I have to be at peace with those views, or that I shouldn't speak out against them at every opportunity. That's especially the case when that intolerance is directed at not just opinions, but at people who are simply different in race, color, or sexuality.
Pretty much how I feel as well. I accept that I can't control how certain people think but that doesn't mean I can't express that I feel that discrimination is wrong even if they mock or get angry at me. I'd rather be hated for who I am than loved for what I am not.
Kraichgauer wrote:
I think lesbians are viewed as less threatening to the general population. And homophobes are all the more discriminatory to gay men because they think that's the best way to hide what they themselves have hidden in their closets.
Oddly, some homophobes whoop and shout when they see lesbian porn despite how they'll also say "I hate homosexuals!" in the same breath. To them, homosexuality is only if it's male on male romance or sex.
Everyone loves lesbian porn. Plenty of women love lesbian porn. I think a big reason why bigoted men despise gay male porn so much is because they're afraid to admit something inside of them likes it.
27 Oct 2017, 12:28 am
Kraichgauer wrote:
Marknis wrote:
Kraichgauer wrote:
EzraS wrote:
Kraichgauer wrote:
EzraS wrote:
Kraichgauer wrote:
EzraS wrote:
Interesting how the hate process shifted form "fags" to "homophobes".
That's because homophobes hate gays because they're different from them. Not much good you can say about homophobes, or any bigots.
It seems pretty much like anything/anyone who's not pro gay is a deplorable homophobe. As in you MUST be in full support or you're a total scumbag human parasite.
Edit: i'll expound on that. If someone was asked how they felt about autistic like me and they said "they creep me out", I would be fine with that, it's an honest answer.
It's not okay to bully or discriminate etc anyone. But a person shouldn't have a pejorative label placed on them for how they honestly feel. They shouldn't have to live in fear because of it. It's not a good way to control society. It's the kind of thing that ends up becoming fascist. Which I believe is exactly what some people want, despite the fact they say they're against fascism. Note, I'm certainly not directing that at you Bill, I'm just speaking in general.
Bigotry is wrong, regardless of what group it's directed at, because every person in that particular group in the bigot's eyes is dehumanized simply for membership in said group. Such bigots would damn the likes of Alan Turing alongside Jeffery Dahmer, taking into consideration only that both were homosexuals. That's no different than a racist seeing no difference between Neil DeGrasse Tyson and a drug dealing murderer belonging to the Bloods street gang simply for the color of their skin. I'm absolutely sure homophobes and racists are being dead honest about their hatred, but that doesn't make it right.
Bigotry is intolerance, which is an unwillingness to accept views, beliefs, or behavior that differ from one's own. Therefore you must accept all views, beliefs or beliefs that differ from yours or you are a bigot. Seems like a catch 22.
I can accept that people have views I know are indefensibly wrong, but that doesn't mean I have to be at peace with those views, or that I shouldn't speak out against them at every opportunity. That's especially the case when that intolerance is directed at not just opinions, but at people who are simply different in race, color, or sexuality.
Pretty much how I feel as well. I accept that I can't control how certain people think but that doesn't mean I can't express that I feel that discrimination is wrong even if they mock or get angry at me. I'd rather be hated for who I am than loved for what I am not.
Kraichgauer wrote:
I think lesbians are viewed as less threatening to the general population. And homophobes are all the more discriminatory to gay men because they think that's the best way to hide what they themselves have hidden in their closets.
Oddly, some homophobes whoop and shout when they see lesbian porn despite how they'll also say "I hate homosexuals!" in the same breath. To them, homosexuality is only if it's male on male romance or sex.
Everyone loves lesbian porn. Plenty of women love lesbian porn. I think a big reason why bigoted men despise gay male porn so much is because they're afraid to admit something inside of them likes it.
https://www.scientificamerican.com/arti ... mosexuals/
Doesn't surprise me. Anti-gay sentiments get perpetuated by various factors in our society and those struggling with their sexual orientation usually don't get the right kind of help (As in therapy to accept their orientation). Understanding homosexuality still has a long way to go in our society and the evils of organized religion as well as political propaganda hinder that.
Kraichgauer
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Posts: 49,239
Location: Spokane area, Washington state.
27 Oct 2017, 1:26 am
Marknis wrote:
Kraichgauer wrote:
Marknis wrote:
Kraichgauer wrote:
EzraS wrote:
Kraichgauer wrote:
EzraS wrote:
Kraichgauer wrote:
EzraS wrote:
Interesting how the hate process shifted form "fags" to "homophobes".
That's because homophobes hate gays because they're different from them. Not much good you can say about homophobes, or any bigots.
It seems pretty much like anything/anyone who's not pro gay is a deplorable homophobe. As in you MUST be in full support or you're a total scumbag human parasite.
Edit: i'll expound on that. If someone was asked how they felt about autistic like me and they said "they creep me out", I would be fine with that, it's an honest answer.
It's not okay to bully or discriminate etc anyone. But a person shouldn't have a pejorative label placed on them for how they honestly feel. They shouldn't have to live in fear because of it. It's not a good way to control society. It's the kind of thing that ends up becoming fascist. Which I believe is exactly what some people want, despite the fact they say they're against fascism. Note, I'm certainly not directing that at you Bill, I'm just speaking in general.
Bigotry is wrong, regardless of what group it's directed at, because every person in that particular group in the bigot's eyes is dehumanized simply for membership in said group. Such bigots would damn the likes of Alan Turing alongside Jeffery Dahmer, taking into consideration only that both were homosexuals. That's no different than a racist seeing no difference between Neil DeGrasse Tyson and a drug dealing murderer belonging to the Bloods street gang simply for the color of their skin. I'm absolutely sure homophobes and racists are being dead honest about their hatred, but that doesn't make it right.
Bigotry is intolerance, which is an unwillingness to accept views, beliefs, or behavior that differ from one's own. Therefore you must accept all views, beliefs or beliefs that differ from yours or you are a bigot. Seems like a catch 22.
I can accept that people have views I know are indefensibly wrong, but that doesn't mean I have to be at peace with those views, or that I shouldn't speak out against them at every opportunity. That's especially the case when that intolerance is directed at not just opinions, but at people who are simply different in race, color, or sexuality.
Pretty much how I feel as well. I accept that I can't control how certain people think but that doesn't mean I can't express that I feel that discrimination is wrong even if they mock or get angry at me. I'd rather be hated for who I am than loved for what I am not.
Kraichgauer wrote:
I think lesbians are viewed as less threatening to the general population. And homophobes are all the more discriminatory to gay men because they think that's the best way to hide what they themselves have hidden in their closets.
Oddly, some homophobes whoop and shout when they see lesbian porn despite how they'll also say "I hate homosexuals!" in the same breath. To them, homosexuality is only if it's male on male romance or sex.
Everyone loves lesbian porn. Plenty of women love lesbian porn. I think a big reason why bigoted men despise gay male porn so much is because they're afraid to admit something inside of them likes it.
https://www.scientificamerican.com/arti ... mosexuals/
Doesn't surprise me. Anti-gay sentiments get perpetuated by various factors in our society and those struggling with their sexual orientation usually don't get the right kind of help (As in therapy to accept their orientation). Understanding homosexuality still has a long way to go in our society and the evils of organized religion as well as political propaganda hinder that.
Thanks for the article, it was very informative. As I understand it, the most homophobic parts of the country have the largest consumption of gay porn.
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