Will or how will the riots effect the election?

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01 Jun 2020, 12:32 am

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Each day the riots and terrorism continue, 100,000 new Trump voters are created.

There will be a substantial shift toward Trump in the black community.


did you choose the number 100,000, the same as the amount of americans that also died as a result of trump's incompetence regarding COVID on purpose?? or is it a coincidence....

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I think it will be a Biden landslide, assuming no foreign influence or voter suppression.

Trump is being partially blamed for this.


i have a feeling that....if there ever is an economic recovery (lol as if), it would happen to line up right around election time on a way that would not be good for dems.

economic well being during an incumbent's presidential re-run almost always works out in their favor.


either way, regular people lose.


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01 Jun 2020, 12:44 am

saying that more POC, after everything that has happened, will turn to trumpy, is just nonsensical talk.



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01 Jun 2020, 12:45 am

Well IDK...the democrats don't have a good candidate, so even with trump's popularity going down...not sure the democrats will actually get the election. Biden is a fudy dudy, at best how is he going to beat Trump? Also with stupid things he keeps saying to incriminate himself, maybe he should just stop trying to talk about race issues because any time he does he manages to say something borderline racist. Its embarrassing.

So yeah not sure how the election will go.


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01 Jun 2020, 12:47 am

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Well IDK...the democrats don't have a good candidate, so even with trump's popularity going down...not sure the democrats will actually get the election. Biden is a fudy dudy, at best how is he going to beat Trump? Also with stupid things he keeps saying to incriminate himself, maybe he should just stop trying to talk about race issues because any time he does he manages to say something borderline racist. Its embarrassing.

So yeah not sure how the election will go.

i think the guy who said that biden would squeak out an electoral win, is on to something. :chin:



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01 Jun 2020, 12:58 am

auntblabby wrote:
saying that more POC, after everything that has happened, will turn to trumpy, is just nonsensical talk.


Your claim, however, appears to rest on a number of assumptions:
* How many people view the "cause" of the riots as a local event rather than an national one
* Who was responsible for the locality
* That those protesting are too "blind" to see the difference between something which a local/state government is responsible for, and what the national government is responsible for
* That those who are not rioting will feel "sympathy" for the rioters and their cause and not instead seek to support someone who does not want this sort of rioting to occur (and is the candiate more likley to be "against" the rioters).

Plus the rather condescending suggestion that "POC" lack the ability to make their own, individual decisions, instead acting as a herd, happy to be led\directed by those "more intelligent" than themselves\their "betters".



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01 Jun 2020, 1:02 am

there's just too much going on. we could be invaded by saturnians next month and people will have come to expect it.


it's impossible to predict anything anymore.


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01 Jun 2020, 1:08 am

Kiprobalhato wrote:
there's just too much going on. we could be invaded by saturnians next month and people will have come to expect it.


it's impossible to predict anything anymore.


Yeah...it kind of is getting to the point I am looking at the news every morning just to see what insanity happens next and it's not even phasing me anymore. I suspect saturanians( I assume you mean people from saturn) invading at this point would just seem normal I'd see that, think to myself 'well this is no surprise, it was only a matter of time before space aliens either come to exploit the current weakness of earthlings or to save us from ourselves.'

And then I would simply get on with my morning tea and go about my day.


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01 Jun 2020, 1:40 am

So how will the riots effect the election?

They didn't hurt Clinton in 92,there is nothing that will hurt Biden either as long as he doesn't choose Klobuchar as a running mate.

I suspect Biden is already Wiley enough to choose a Black running mate at this point.

They won't hurt Trump but they won't help him either.


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01 Jun 2020, 2:01 am

it was thought previous to now, that some kind of national disaster would "bring americans together." it was thought that an ET invasion would SURELY bring americans together. the covid-19 mess is as close as practical for an ET invasion, and what do we see? amuuuuricans at each other's throats. NOT "bringing together." nobody but the antichrist himself can bring us together, and even then i have my doubts. we've met the enemy and he is US. we're doomed.



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01 Jun 2020, 4:52 am

vermontsavant wrote:
So how will the riots effect the election?

They didn't hurt Clinton in 92,there is nothing that will hurt Biden either as long as he doesn't choose Klobuchar as a running mate.

I suspect Biden is already Wiley enough to choose a Black running mate at this point.

They won't hurt Trump but they won't help him either.

Bush was the President at the time of the LA riots. I think the economy and Ross Perot were probably the biggest factors.


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01 Jun 2020, 5:11 am

auntblabby wrote:
it was thought previous to now, that some kind of national disaster would "bring americans together." it was thought that an ET invasion would SURELY bring americans together. the covid-19 mess is as close as practical for an ET invasion, and what do we see? amuuuuricans at each other's throats. NOT "bringing together." nobody but the antichrist himself can bring us together, and even then i have my doubts. we've met the enemy and he is US. we're doomed.

Pandemics usually divide people not unite them. Some group always gets blamed, becomes the diseased people. 9/11 and Pearl Harbor had identifiable enemies to unite and focus against. Germs are hidden and seemingly everywhere leading to paranoia. As I said in another thread this pandemic was uniquely bad with its shutdown and economic collapse that left people bored and desperate, a prescription for trouble. What we have is a "perfect storm" of factors for disaster.

That said I think I agree with your doubts. Actually I have little doubt if a 9/11 or Pearl Harbor occurred now it would have split open the country and not united in patriotism as it did for those events. The country is too divided, too zero-sum game and conspiracy theory minded to come together.


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01 Jun 2020, 5:20 am

ASPartOfMe wrote:
vermontsavant wrote:
So how will the riots effect the election?

They didn't hurt Clinton in 92,there is nothing that will hurt Biden either as long as he doesn't choose Klobuchar as a running mate.

I suspect Biden is already Wiley enough to choose a Black running mate at this point.

They won't hurt Trump but they won't help him either.

Bush was the President at the time of the LA riots. I think the economy and Ross Perot were probably the biggest factors.
I said it didn't hurt Clinton,I never said it defined the election


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01 Jun 2020, 5:43 am

Biden’s lead at the moment is very, very strong. At this stage in 2016 Clinton was up by two or three points, which was roughly what she ended up winning by (although it was an up-and-down journey and of course Trump won the electoral college).

Biden is nationally up something like six points, and he’s winning in Pennsylvania, Michigan, Florida, Wisconsin, and Arizona and apparently challenging in Ohio and even Texas.

It’s hard to say much more before FiveThirtyEight release their model but Trump needs something really big to help him. The pandemic was an opportunity but as I said elsewhere, I think he blew it by turning it into a partisan thing. It’s not obvious how these protests could be good for the incumbent but as I said earlier, let’s wait and see.



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01 Jun 2020, 6:34 am

Based on my sources, conservatives have benefitted, in the past, and will probably benefit this time around.
It may be a case of the left-wing anarchy putting Trump back in power.
Time will tell. <shrug>



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01 Jun 2020, 6:41 am

auntblabby wrote:
it was thought previous to now, that some kind of national disaster would "bring americans together." it was thought that an ET invasion would SURELY bring americans together. the covid-19 mess is as close as practical for an ET invasion, and what do we see? amuuuuricans at each other's throats. NOT "bringing together." nobody but the antichrist himself can bring us together, and even then i have my doubts. we've met the enemy and he is US. we're doomed.


There seems to be a deep social sickness in America.
A very deep-seated partisanship which doesn't seem to be matched by any other country I am aware of.
The chinese must be laughing like buggery. 8O



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01 Jun 2020, 6:44 am

Brictoria wrote:
As I understand it:
The protesters are predominantly on the "left" of the political spectrum


And yet they trashed the CNN building, which is one of the flagships of the left-wing media.
WTF! 8O