Alex jones - hero, anti-hero or villain?

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19 Dec 2021, 6:32 pm

'Hero' is little bit high standard to live up to for anyone. Anti-hero, thats a matter of opinion. Villain? Let he who is without sin, cast the first stone. I don't know enough about him to judge him there. He's certainly controversial, and opinionated, and a hell of a speaker. Quite the 'performance artiste.' A paranoia-peddler for certain.

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19 Dec 2021, 6:58 pm

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I personally view him as a hero, even if he promotes capitalism & libertarianism, neither of which I support for the most part.

He was telling truth to power about authoritarianism & informing people about how governments manipulate & control their populations' over a decade before it became mainstream. He was prophetic in many ways & took so many bullets to speak his truth it must have been painful.

Yes, he made many missteps and ultimately he caused some real life chaos that brought him down.

But think about all of the other chaos that his enemies caused, thinking they were doing the right thing? The buildings that BLM burn down had owners. Their owners had families, their families had innocent children. Real life people get hurt when groups like BLM start burning things down.

Whilst Alex Jones supported Trump at one time - he did so because Trump championed Christianity and also law and order and justice, as well as rights for biological white men, who could be any kind of person inside their body, regardless of the colour of their skin.

There is nothing 'fake' about fighting for your survival as a black sheep/man inside a white sheep/man's skin.

Alex Jones disliked & dislikes Trump on many levels. Video below.

How can you say for sure Trump supported Biblical Christianity when he has billions of dollars and a worth of property and Jesus said give sell everything and give to the poor.Jesus and the New Testament when literally interepreted are much more closer to Marxism than the Gilded Age Capitalism economically speaking.Plus I dont think jesus would be fine with Trump running comitting adultery so many times.Also the Jesus of the Bible said that people on the Forbes 400 have a virtually impossible shot at getting to Heaven like the camel and the eye of the needle and all.He also lives in complete luxury which is condemned by James in the Epistle of James so as a Christian I dont think he comes very close to New Testament Values.

He is nowhere close to being a Christian on a personal level. He is giving power to Christianity be representing Christianity as a symbolic, rich figure who represents real Christians (his supporters)

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19 Dec 2021, 7:08 pm

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I guess I think because I think he prolly just used Christians to get elected by paying Jesus and the Bible lip-service when he does not have New Testament Values.I think a famous homeless person would represent real Christians better than Trump.

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19 Dec 2021, 7:32 pm

Alex Jones was the real thing.

But...he PRETENDED... to be a charlatan!

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19 Dec 2021, 7:36 pm

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Alex Jones was the real thing.

But...he PRETENDED... to be a charlatan!

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19 Dec 2021, 8:04 pm

naturalplastic wrote:

Alex Jones was the real thing.

But...he PRETENDED... to be a charlatan!

I have to agree with this assessment. He pretended to be a performance artist to his lawyers, or perhaps they agreed on that narrative from what I understood reading about his private life, some time ago.

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19 Dec 2021, 8:07 pm

AntonChigurh wrote:

Yes. Trump is a politician first & foremost.

But let us imagine he does not believe a word he says and is not a Christian.

Even if he represents Christianity & furthers its agenda - would that not be a plus in the eyes of God?

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19 Dec 2021, 8:26 pm

theprisoner wrote:

naturalplastic wrote:

Alex Jones was the real thing.

But...he PRETENDED... to be a charlatan!

Someone said that about Marshal McLuhan (The "the medium is the message" pundit of the Sixties and Seventies).

A very different personality from Alex Jones. But equally hard to classify.

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19 Dec 2021, 9:22 pm

The minute Jones heartlessly started pedaling the crap that the children murdered at Sandy hook never existed, and that the parents were crisis actors - leaving said parents open to attack by the lunatic fringe hanging on every word spouted by Jones - he became a villain. That sort of cruelty, that he not only caused but encouraged by fanning that inferno, is unforgivable.

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19 Dec 2021, 9:37 pm

naturalplastic wrote:

Someone said that about Marshal McLuhan (The "the medium is the message" pundit of the Sixties and Seventies).

A very different personality from Alex Jones. But equally hard to classify.

Marshall Mcluhan was on a intellectual level far above Alex Jones. Alex Jones is just a buffoonish rabble rouser by comparison.

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19 Dec 2021, 10:24 pm

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Well I dont think we should be a government that based on the will of Christianity because thats theocracy which is clearly banned and unconstitutional.God wants Biden to be our president now in my eyes.

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19 Dec 2021, 11:13 pm

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Yes. That thing alone would make him a villian, pure and simple.

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20 Dec 2021, 3:16 am

theprisoner wrote:

naturalplastic wrote:

Someone said that about Marshal McLuhan (The "the medium is the message" pundit of the Sixties and Seventies).

A very different personality from Alex Jones. But equally hard to classify.

Marshall Mcluhan was on a intellectual level far above Alex Jones. Alex Jones is just a buffoonish rabble rouser by comparison.

Exactly. You may as well compare Hitler to Kierkegaard.

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20 Dec 2021, 3:16 am

naturalplastic wrote:

Alex Jones was the real thing.

But...he PRETENDED... to be a charlatan!

LOL!

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20 Dec 2021, 9:43 am

He went beyond just being a lying, rabblerousing huxtering "character" who pedaled his own lines of ineffective but harmless products on his shows. He did do some rather damaging things. Like that Sandyhook thing.

But ... at least he did draw attention to the plight of enviromentally threatened freshwater amphibians.

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20 Dec 2021, 9:49 am

naturalplastic wrote:

You just HAD to mention that!

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