Why is Kamala Harris so unpopular in the US?
I dunno, weird little things like that.
Not just arrested, as a prosecutor she also blocked a lot of evidence being presented during appeals for wrongful convictions. A lot of those whom she blocked were black males.This makes her unpopular in the black community.
White republicans can find endless lists of things they dislike about her.
Just out of curiosity, does anyone actually like being pandered to? The progressive left seems to like it, demand it even, but there seems to be pockets that cringe, like even SNL periodically skewers it. This is one of those areas where I'm genuinely curious because my own reaction to pandering is very negative, even when it's attempting to flatter my demographic it just feels condescending and manipulative, but I'm aware that I'm weird about a lot of stuff like that.
I'm glad you asked, person-whose-political-positions-are-usually-diametrically-opposed-to-my-own!
Short answer is: no, the vast majority of other leftists I have met also consider this sort of pandering to be insulting and tone-deaf. Naturally, we (more generalization incoming) want more representation of historically marginalized groups in media/government/other positions of influence. What we do *not* want is establishment media and politicians to parade minorities and women around as if to say "See how much we care about your issues? See how enlightened we are? Vote for us!/Buy our products!"; and then they ignore or actively work against the interests of those groups they are trying to pander to. It's representation for its own sake, and not because it actually recognizes any of the reasons we want more representation in the first place. It's like your parents getting you something that *looks* like what you asked for for Xmas, but it's clearly an inferior product, and they just think you're too stupid to notice the difference. It shows they don't actually listen or care. It's insulting.
It would be like if the GOP presidential candidate picked a running mate who always wore jean overalls, spoke with a strong rural accent, and carried a gun on him at all times. Because that's the stereotype that the party establishment thinks you want. But then you take one look at that running mate's record and it turns out they've always supported gun control, an open border, treaties which screw over American workers and businesses, and engaged in crony capitalism. (Pause to laugh at how many real GOP politicians this describes). It's yet another bland, basic beltway insider dressed up as what the establishment stereotypes the base as wanting. Only the uninformed or blind party loyalists would actually like that running mate. (Again, pause for laughter). The exact same applies to Kamala Harris and the Dems.
I think we've become more desensitized to constant establishment RINO's being dressed up as in touch with the base when they are hilariously, obviously, not. That's more standard fair for US politics for both parties since.......always. Trying to pander to race and gender politics on the left feels especially Fake, because it is relatively new, and much, MUCH more self-congratulatory. Much animosity towards this will indeed be because of simple bigotry or dismissiveness towards racial and gender groups, but not all of it--not by a long shot. I am a filthy queer Leftist who desperately wants more people of color and queeros and women in government to work to undo the centuries of a severe lack of that representation. That all being the case: I and all leftists I know *loathe* the shallow pandering with a burning passion. If it's *not* actually pandering, then that's awesome! Seeing people from those groups who actually do work towards Leftist values kicks ass. Seeing people from those groups who are just more of the exact same cookie-cutter establishmentarian capitalists makes me want to rip my hair out.
I would rather hear a Fox News anchor complain about Kamala Harris than listen to any liberal news outlet gush about how *progressive* she is (vomits) and how her choice as VP was such a *great* achievement in race relations (vomits) and how she is such a great *feminist role model* for young girls (vomits).
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Not just right-wingers. Bernie Bros and other neolib-haters on the left also hate her.
This no longer surprises me.
Seriously, read the thread again, point out where anyone accused you of pandering as opposed to being poorly informed.
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The verdict from this thread is that Kamala is loved almost exclusively by centrists and liberals who see a woman of color in power and reflexively accept her without question or criticism for fear of being labelled as racist or sexist.
Let me put it to you this way: If you do not criticize a woman of color politician the same way you would any other politician, then you are not treating her with actual respect. If you see her gender and race and decide you don't need to take a critical lense to her record, then you are blinding yourself to the fact that her record has been detrimental to the interests of both feminism and racial justice. If you are this easily duped by the establishment, then you are an unwitting obstacle to racial and gender equality.
This is the same exhausting nonsense I had to contend with back in 2016, when any leftist who was critical of Hilary was dismissed as just a sexist or some pie-in-the-sky pinko. If you think gender is the only reason someone would dislike Hilary, then you are living in a fantasy world.
It's that kind of self-satisfied dismissiveness that's causing the political center in this country to wither and die.
Bruh I've made more than one post on here giving multiple reasons why people outside the far right would not like her.
She's an establishmentarian.
She's a capitalist.
She panders to identity politics while--at best--paying lip service to those she supposedly represents.
She upheld mass incarceration while a prosecutor in California.
She upheld the prison slave labor complex.
She and the Dem establishment and the left-of-center media smugly dismisses any criticism of her as racism, sexism, or rabid socialism.
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I guess I just wasn't made for these times.
- Brian Wilson
Δυνατὰ δὲ οἱ προύχοντες πράσσουσι καὶ οἱ ἀσθενεῖς ξυγχωροῦσιν.
Those with power do what their power permits, and the weak can only acquiesce.
- Thucydides
Conservatism discourages thought, discussion, consensus, empathy, and hope.