Atheism and Satanism

Post Reply New Topic

Most religious people would even say burning Atheists at the stake would be evil, correct me if I'm wrong but slowmutant clearly would prefer that.

No, the guardian of Christianity is Jesus Christ. The Devil is a liar, and loves to twist and distort. Satan is the father of lies, don't you know? Why don't we all go to a Christian forum and get some proper perspective? The one thing atheists seem to lack is a scripture of their own. All this can't stand up against faith, all this information and ideas. In the face of faith, information seems pathetically inadequate.

I would not, actually. It's a barbaric practise to say the least, and it comes from a time of absolute primitive theocracy. A modern democracy would abhor this. A more civilized and compassionate world would abhor this. It solves nothing and is a forgetting of the preciousness of human life.

You entirely missed my point, I know what Christianity thinks Satan is, I was saying why Satan has protected Christianity in reality.


Well it does solve the issue, no doubting there. No Atheists = No disagreement to the Christian Dogma, that simple, instead of having a civilized debate just kill them off. Rather obviously I and most people would be opposed to it.

Heresy was considered, at one time, not just a sin but also a crime punsihable by death. IN our time that's no longer the case, as I'm sure everyone knows.

On the burning of witches and heretics: If you start killing off people who disagree with you,m where would the killing stop? I mean, sooner or later you'l have opposition from all sides. You can't kill everybody. If you try, you risk becoming something worse than your heretics and witches.

No, even if I had the opportunity could I would not kill any of you. God says Thou Shalt Not Kill, and Jesus says to love your enemy. THe hard part is trying to live by those teachings and to not fall victim to Pride or Wrath.

Whatever happened to "Love your neighbor as yourself"?

Actually eventually the people who disagree with you would shut up if you started killing everyone off that did out of fear. Why do you think most Christians are opposed to thinking against or questioning their beliefs? Because the guardian of Christianity, Satan made hell and hell is what keeps all Christians afraid of the religion that way they cannot think against it. Satan's job is to make sure Christianity stays a belief, and he does a pretty good job at it.

And ToadOfSteel: Apparently Atheists aren't neighbors.

The only reason fundamentalist athiests are so adamant about trying to "disprove" and "destroy" Christianity is because fundamentalist christians can't see past the Christian faith, and try to force that faith on everyone.

Two sides of the same fundamentalist coin.



They are in my book. And probably in God's book too... Did He not also make the atheists in his own image?

No.

Atheism existed before the Common Era.

There was no Christianity for atheism to 'react against' in that time.

Erm, most fundamentalist Atheists don't care from my experience, or realize it isn't going to make a difference whether to care or not. My educated guess is that Christianity will most likely die off eventually, on it's own naturally as we are becoming more of a free world to a point. And you can't 'disprove' Christianity, if you took a time machine back 2,000 years ago and went out searching for Jesus, and as expected you don't find him does that mean all the Christians stop believing? Of course not! Satan cursed the Time Machine, that's why when you go back he's not there! Obviously! And you can't possibly deny that's going to be one of the main reasons why we'd still have Christians if it were possible to go back in time and look. There's no point in arguing the belief in my opinion as Christians don't care whether it's true or not, to them it's always going to be true because they're that stuck in their own delusion.


I know most Christians think that, I was talking off of slowmutant's beliefs.

Yes, it is hilarious, in the sense that it is incredibly false whatsoever. I take it your generalization comes from ignorance or perhaps a bunch of foundie Christians that are very lame, it is still a lame generalization though, perhaps as idiotic as "atheists are satanists."

What if the time machine actually showed Jesus? You would say it is an evil Christian conspiracy, if you feel offended by how this statement underestimates your intelligence, please think twice before making that sort of statement next time.

But really... what if the time machine actually showed Jesus, He is a historical figure, you know... Whether he was a prophet or the son of God or a guy who said a lot of things is up to everyone to decide, but denying he existed would pretty much be the same as denying the existence of any other figure for which we have records of. Not too may people seem to care enough about denying Cleopatra's existence even though she used to present herself as the incarnation of Isis. You know, the fact that Cleopatra existed doesn't mean she was Isis or that Isis existed. So, you don't actually need to begin denying the existence of historical figures! It is not necessary! Let atheists regain some credibility and stop doing these sort of thing that they didn't need to do anyway...

You know, I am getting quite scared by this new world in which the Atheist is as irrational as the Christian, unfortunately that's the conclussion I got after seeing so many forums' discussions about this topic.

I should not have opened this can of worms. This was maybe a bad idea. Oh well, off to to burn some heretics I guess ...

Well, frankly, I wouldn't much care to be burned at the stake, but I'd like to think, like so many other fluffy new-agers and Neo-Pagans out there like myself, that there are simply different paths to the same mountaintop. Since my point is to give my version of an answer to this question about Atheism and Satanism, I'll say that according to Anton Szandor LaVey, Satanism is, among other things, mainly an embrace of the material world over the spiritual world. Christianity, among other spiritualities and religions associated with the "light" side of things as opposed to the "dark", embraces the belief that the spiritual world rules us. Satanism states that the spiritual world is what we make it. Satan supposedly advocates this policy. Whereas most Christian values state that we must look out for one another and harm no one, Satanism advises that one does what pleases oneself, no matter the impact on others. The thing about this belief is that it, like Christianity, stems from some belief in the spiritual or divine, whereas Atheism is nothing of the sort; in fact, the opposite. Atheism is a denial of a spiritual plane of existence beyond this one. It embraces the philosophy that what you see is what you get, so make it worth your while.
Let me also disclaim from myself any misconception that I am either Christian, Satanist, or Atheist. I happen to be Pagan. Regardless, that's my input on the original question at hand.

Oh OOO! Burn me!! Burn me! I'm a heretic! lol

You know they burned Joan of Arc because she believed too much!

Hedonism is another ism, as long as we're discussing isms ...

Well, then where's the conflict? Burning people because they beleive something else, burning people because they agree too much... You're damned if you do, damned if you don't...