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Haliphron
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24 Feb 2009, 4:09 pm

Pixel8 wrote:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ukyHLv8Ulg0


Woaaah Dude! Trippy!! 8)

Ive actually seen/experienced this sort of thing by staring at strobing images and even still patterns before. But if you SERIOUSLY wanna take a trip without drugs one very effective way to do it is sleep depravation. Trouble is, this can potentially cause long-term damage to your brain . Another way to do it is sensory depravation, like floating in an *isolation tank* the way those psychology students did in the movie Altered States. :drunken: Life was probably so harsh and so unpleasant for people living before civilization that any sort of mind-altering plants/herbs/fungi must have been a blissful escape.
What shocks me the most though, is the fact that hallucinogenic drugs werent integrated into/adopted by western culture long ago. I mean, Im actually quite ASTONISHED that christan churches(including the catholic church)havent employed hallucinogens as part of masses/revivals...:?



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24 Feb 2009, 9:54 pm

don't be so sure. ok moses went up a hill, to do what exactly? pick shrooms or meditate? end result is the same. nowhere does it say don't seek god through psychedelics. just don't get too pissed is all.


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25 Feb 2009, 3:01 pm

I watched that video and it was a real trip just watching it. But sometimes reality gets all distorted like that on its own without any drugs or optical illusions. When I take pot I freak out.

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in a more primitive society we'd be apprentice to the shamen of the tribe

That's what i was told by this new age woman who I lived with during high school. She used me for her new age/political gains but would ignore me when she didn't need me.

Haliphron wrote:
But if you SERIOUSLY wanna take a trip without drugs one very effective way to do it is sleep depravation. Trouble is, this can potentially cause long-term damage to your brain .

Like what? I've had trouble with insomnia, sometimes not sleeping for a day or three. I wonder how it might of changed my brain chemistry.


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25 Feb 2009, 5:44 pm

dlt



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25 Feb 2009, 6:00 pm

I do/have. There are certain pieces of music that will let me go there every time - usually in the etherial goth or melodic trance genres, but there are others as well.


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25 Feb 2009, 7:12 pm

i wouldnt wanna "trip sober" cus i'd be VERY VERY worried about my brain.
if i trip, i want to know i just did something illegal first.