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02 Nov 2010, 11:32 pm

Descartes wrote:

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The allegations come from what is in a book written by Kevin Jennings.

What is the title of this book?

Which one? First one I can find is actually on him writing a foreward for a book.

http://www.wnd.com/index.php?fa=PAGE.view&pageId=77640

Also some media sources that reported on this nut.
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http://www.washingtontimes.com/news/200 ... -pleasure/
http://gatewaypundit.firstthings.com/20 ... ed-nambla/
http://smartg.new.newsvine.com/_news/20 ... onnections
http://harringtonreport.com/tag/school- ... x-scandal/

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02 Nov 2010, 11:47 pm

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My question is very simple: If bu-fu, why not Fufu?

Other people have said this already. You have to be able to sign a legal contract.

Your argument utilizes the "slippery slope" logical fallacy, and therefore is not rational.

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03 Nov 2010, 12:03 am

Inuyasha wrote:

Which one? First one I can find is actually on him writing a foreward for a book.

http://www.wnd.com/index.php?fa=PAGE.view&pageId=77640

The link you provided did not provide the actual foreward that Jennings wrote. I found it on Google Books, and I did not notice anything radical about his foreward. Here's a link:

http://books.google.com/books?id=3jrULETBwt8C&printsec=frontcover&dq=queering+elementary+education&hl=en&ei=4unQTM7mOYOglAfultTPDA&sa=X&oi=book_result&ct=result&resnum=1&ved=0CDMQ6AEwAA#v=onepage&q&f=false

You'll have to scroll down a bit to get to the foreward.

Also, on the accusation of Jennings praising Harry Hay, I don't think he praised Hay for having been associated with NAMBLA, but rather for his finding of an LGBT rights organization. Why should it matter that Jennings praised Hay anyway? A lot people think highly of Thomas Jefferson, despite the fact that he supported racist views.

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03 Nov 2010, 9:03 am

The power of the slippery slope!

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03 Nov 2010, 1:25 pm

Ambrose_Rotten wrote:

Ragtime wrote:

My question is very simple: If bu-fu, why not Fufu?

Other people have said this already. You have to be able to sign a legal contract.

Your argument utilizes the "slippery slope" logical fallacy, and therefore is not rational.

He won't reply to you. I haven't seen Ragtime post in the PPR forum for at least a year.

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03 Nov 2010, 1:52 pm

Jono wrote:

Ambrose_Rotten wrote:

Ragtime wrote:

My question is very simple: If bu-fu, why not Fufu?

Other people have said this already. You have to be able to sign a legal contract.

Your argument utilizes the "slippery slope" logical fallacy, and therefore is not rational.

He won't reply to you. I haven't seen Ragtime post in the PPR forum for at least a year.

Me neither thank gawd.

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03 Nov 2010, 4:35 pm

Descartes wrote:

Also, on the accusation of Jennings praising Harry Hay, I don't think he praised Hay for having been associated with NAMBLA, but rather for his finding of an LGBT rights organization. Why should it matter that Jennings praised Hay anyway? A lot people think highly of Thomas Jefferson, despite the fact that he supported racist views.

The fact he praised the nutcase at all speaks volumes. I have nothing against people whom are attracted to the same gender. That said, I do have a problem with the idea it is okay for an adult to have sexual relations, molest, etc. children. Also, many people whom are gay (probably the overwhelming majority), also think that Hay was a nutcase.

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03 Nov 2010, 9:09 pm

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Why should it say anything about Jennings' character? I believe Jennings merely commended Hay for having found one of the first gay rights organizations in the United States.

As I mentioned earlier, many people consider Thomas Jefferson to be one of the greatest presidents in U.S. history. However, did you know that Jefferson had a book published called "Notes on the State of Virginia", in which he argued that blacks were inferior to whites?

Praising one person for a single accomplishment is not necessarily an endorsement of all that person's personal convictions.

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03 Nov 2010, 9:12 pm

Jefferson was a product of his era, and that was the line of reasoning back then. Hays was advocating what would have been considered illegal back then and is certainly illegal today. (In fact it would be called statuatory rape).

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03 Nov 2010, 9:19 pm

Inuyasha wrote:

Like I said before, praising someone for a single accomplishment is not an endorsement of that person's entire set of beliefs. As far as I know, Jennings has no affiliation with NAMBLA, nor has he endorsed that organization.

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03 Nov 2010, 9:22 pm

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You are neglecting the other information and just focussing on the Hays issue.

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03 Nov 2010, 9:33 pm

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You are neglecting the other information and just focussing on the Hays issue.

If you're talking about the molestation issue, I believe that the young man who was supposedly molested was already of legal consenting age in his state (Massachusetts).

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