UFOs perhaps

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If you think about aliens as based in a distant star seeking a planet to conquer, you are probably correct. But an alien civilization based in space and dipping into a probable source of whatever it needs, like a space based virus of some kind - that might be different.

what do we earthings have that any other spacefaring civilization really needs to go through the trouble of crossing vast distances to get? how do we know that aliens cannot simply transmute any materials around them that they might need? IOW if they can warp space they should be able to do just about anything else. what is so important about earth that other ultra-advanced civilizations would be constantly checking us out, for centuries upon centuries?

Barring all "alein reasons we cannot comprehind" ideas, scientific reaserch strikes me as the most logical reason.

That said, I doubt aliens are visiting earth.

Since we have no idea as to what aliens might want we cannot deny that they might want something Earth has. Perhaps only water. The aliens in "Independence Day" were based on a huge mother ship that wandered the universe. That seems a reasonable possibility. There have been enough unresolved sightings by military and other responsible people who are familiar with normal aircraft that gives me doubts. Most sightings are obvious frauds. But not all.

There's water all over space. they would have no reason to come to earth for some.

Don't reason with me. Reason with them.

I agree. There is as much evidence that aliens have visited earth as there is that god exists, which is to say little or none.

ruveyn

Maybe intelligent aliens do exist but they have created a Brave New World style world dictatorship instead of going into space.

OR DID I JUST BLOW ALL YOUR FREAKING MINDS?! !!

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The actual testimony.

It seems unlikely, unless you consider the theory that all life on earth stems from bacteria that arrived here by meteor a fairly long while back.



These are some bold claims you're making. What makes you an expert on alien technology? How do you know that the means to traverse long distances in relatively short times isn't something we're close to discovering for ourselves? A simple missile may well be sufficient to take out any craft that was mere decades more advanced than our own 'spaceships'.

Our preconceptions of aliens would be a pretty major reason to study from the shadows should a benign race of beings ever actually make it to our planet.

That isn't to say that I believe they're among us




It is fairly logical to suggest that a sociable, tool-using animal which walks upright on two legs and has similar, not identical, features to humans would be a likely candidate to become the apex predator on any planet capable of sustaining space-faring life. It's equally plausible that such a species would find similar solutions to common problems from an evolutionary perspective, and from a scientific one. Sadly, it's inevitable that such a creature would also invent religion, and eventually republicans.

Note, this last part is humour, and will only offend those without a sense of same.



I personally find it much easier to accept that our own governments are capable of doing things with chunks of metal that we're oblivious to than to accept any 'aliens are among us' theory.

I found the testimony on the video convincing. Speculating beyond the raw testimony is worse than idiotic. Aliens and their technology, at this point, are a total unknown.

Aliens existing is likely by statistics.

But UFOs being alien crafts, alien cover ups and aliens visiting Eart are all based on the US not wanting to release information about sightings or Roswell. There's a bigger chance that the US doesn't want to release information about Roswell because it was an aircraft from an opposing force.

As for sightings? The loch ness monster doesn't exist but loads see it.

Until there's proof, I say aliens aren't here.

Of course the lack of physical proof is a strong incentive to doubt and deny. But the CNN video was the testimony of scientifically and technically trained professionals who have everything to lose by their remarks, not by hysterical housewives or drug influenced teenagers. There is enough authority in their testimony to give weight to their conclusions. The behavior of aliens, if they exist, cannot be judged by human standards but the behavior of human authorities as described seems to make sense in the cover up as it is related. Humans will not easily concede that aliens are not only present but vastly superior in technology to humans. Doubt remains, of course, but I find it is very vulnerable.

Speculation is never idiotic. It aids us creatively and when making rational decisions.



Which aliens do you refer to? Hypothetical aliens that have never left their own planets, let alone visited ours, or hypothetical aliens hiding in our midst?

Some of the people asking questions was just bad. And to imply that whatever aliens want us to stop using nuclear technology is absurd. Given the actions, there's little more to be derived than maybe a scouting view.

The interesting part was the more recent incidents and that incidents were occurring in other countries.

One thing I'd have to assume is that if the UFO's are alien crafts, the aliens most likely don't have our problems with different sects and cliques around their civilization as we do. That's just a guess in that in order to reach such a technological level, that means already surpassing our own technology and not achieving complete self-obliteration. Does that mean they'll be peaceful to us? Who knows, maybe they killed off all the pinks and greens on their planet and the greys just reached the best technology first? Or maybe whatever groups there were interbred so much that they're the final result.

If you believe the concept that life come here via bacteria carried on a meteorite, then logically one has to assume that one potential reason for life being on that meteorite was that it was part of another planet previously that hosted life and bacteria being bacteria, they survived in extremes just as they do most everywhere we see here.

There are thousands of speculative SF stories about aliens and a good many of them, like Star Trek episodes put tentacles and rubber noses on humans and call them aliens. Real aliens are not humans in costume and you cannot psychoanalyze them as if they were.