US Government wants to take firearms away by force!
Is it possible I don't have an "assault rifle" for home defense?
Is your world so small that you can think of no other propose of a firearm than home defense?
It's not the kind of thing I sit around and wring my hands over. It's more fun to watch you gun haters stumble all over yourselves in an ill fated attempt to bring something valid to just one of these gunz-r-bad threads.
NEXT

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Correction of Error #1 - Full-Auto firearms are the only "spray and pray" weapons out there, and you need a special license and tax ticket to own one. ALL OTHER WEAPONS ARE NOT FULL-AUTO and it is ILLEGAL to convert them to that operation without obtaining that special license and tax ticket.
Correction of Error #2 - Home invasion robberies are a reality...multiple assailants with guns who WILL NOT think twice about killing you and your loved ones. A weapon with limited capacity would be a disadvantage because in an emergency, you likely only have the magazine in the weapon. The fewer shots it holds, the fewer shots you have to stop your attacker(s). Why should I have a 30-round magazine? So I have 30 chances to protect myself before I have to find a way to reload. If you magically limit all firearms to 10 rounds, a group of 5 assailants would have 50 rounds to use on me.
Here we go again......
Yeah, forget that it can and often is used to defend oneself and just go with The Brady Center's "statistics"......NOT.
Try and rationalize it all you want, and I'm sure you will, but if it's not relevant to the issue at hand then it's none of anyone's business. Period.
Your statement is not accurate. It might not be relevant for an ER visit (ie, where they stabilize an injury and ship the patient out to someone else), but the standard of care for a GP requires that they treat the whole person, not just "the issue at hand." It might not quite be medical malpractice to avoid a complete history, but it certainly is sloppy at best.
Hope you didn't think I forgot about you.

Anyhoo, I looked at several GP patient questionnaires that I found online and none of them, not one, asked such silly and invasive questions about sex life, mental state, number and type of pets, or guns in the home.
Every question was actually relevant to the individual's health and health history including family health history, meds, smoking and drinking (which actually are relevant), etc.
I would immediately cease doing business with any healthcare provider that stepped out of line by asking such personal questions that you claim are relevant.
But then again I don't go to them unless I really need to. The only healthcare provider I see on a regular basis is the vet I take my dog to.
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An assault rifle is an excellent tool for hunting, given that it's usually not in automatic mode. Furthermore, it can also be used for military practice if you for example belong to the national guard. Lastly, you can use it to keep those nasty coyotes of your property.
anti gun people are like homophobs they know absolutely nothing about the subject they only see the worst type of stereotypes as a reason to turn very normal honest intelligent and caring people into criminals. All because they are ignorant narrow minded idiodic selfish people who want to live in a world that doesnt and more than likely will never exist but that wont stop them from destorying peoples lives because they get butt hurt too easy.
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Selfish? Ignorant? I would think that would describe those gun nuts who see gun rights as absolute, even to the point of running roughshod over the rights of anyone else.
Guess what - no right is absolute, and that includes gun rights.
And no, I'm not calling all gun enthusiasts selfish and ignorant.
-Bill, otherwise known as Kraichgauer
Selfish? Ignorant? I would think that would describe those gun nuts who see gun rights as absolute, even to the point of running roughshod over the rights of anyone else.
Guess what - no right is absolute, and that includes gun rights.
And no, I'm not calling all gun enthusiasts selfish and ignorant.
-Bill, otherwise known as Kraichgauer
How are they running roughshod over the rights of others?
Who said they were absolute? A very small minority in the gun camp at best. The problem with the anti gun camp is they have no rationale for the laws they want to see imposed and no knowledge of the subject they screech about.
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Freudian slip?

That should be you're.
Fixed.
It's always good to have a spelling Nazi on-board.
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Selfish? Ignorant? I would think that would describe those gun nuts who see gun rights as absolute, even to the point of running roughshod over the rights of anyone else.
Guess what - no right is absolute, and that includes gun rights.
And no, I'm not calling all gun enthusiasts selfish and ignorant.
-Bill, otherwise known as Kraichgauer
How are they running roughshod over the rights of others?
Who said they were absolute? A very small minority in the gun camp at best. The problem with the anti gun camp is they have no rationale for the laws they want to see imposed and no knowledge of the subject they screech about.
As for who is running roughshod over the rights of others - recently, a right wing talk show host ranted and raved how he would tell the loved ones of the Newtown victims that his liberty was more important than their loss. He was hardly just speaking for himself.
As for who is actually walking lockstep here, I think ArrantPariah has already addressed that matter.
And in closing, being anal about proper spelling doesn't make you a Nazi, it just means you're more likely an Aspie. I should know - I go back and correct my errors constantly after I post.
-Bill, otherwise known as Kraichgauer
Here we go again......
Yeah, forget that it can and often is used to defend oneself and just go with The Brady Center's "statistics"......NOT.
Try and rationalize it all you want, and I'm sure you will, but if it's not relevant to the issue at hand then it's none of anyone's business. Period.
Your statement is not accurate. It might not be relevant for an ER visit (ie, where they stabilize an injury and ship the patient out to someone else), but the standard of care for a GP requires that they treat the whole person, not just "the issue at hand." It might not quite be medical malpractice to avoid a complete history, but it certainly is sloppy at best.
Hope you didn't think I forgot about you.

Anyhoo, I looked at several GP patient questionnaires that I found online and none of them, not one, asked such silly and invasive questions about sex life, mental state, number and type of pets, or guns in the home.
Every question was actually relevant to the individual's health and health history including family health history, meds, smoking and drinking (which actually are relevant), etc.
I would immediately cease doing business with any healthcare provider that stepped out of line by asking such personal questions that you claim are relevant.
But then again I don't go to them unless I really need to. The only healthcare provider I see on a regular basis is the vet I take my dog to.
Sex life (ie, 'are you monogamous and satisfied') is relevant because it speaks to both STIs, likelihood of becoming a parent, and depression; pets are relevant because they affect allergies and depression. If a doc isn't asking about those, she's not being thorough. Of course, given that an appointment with a GP now often runs about 5 minutes, that is perhaps not too surprising.
Another important item that is often not included on a questionnaire is diet - do you eat enough fruits and vegetables, do you avoid fast food and soda. Extremely relevant to health, but often only discussed verbally or neglected entirely.
My health care provider never asked me any questions like that,they just do my blood work.All they ever ask about is what medication I'm taking.It's different at the Health dept for annual "lady checkups",they do ask about personal stuff,and I expect them to.But they have never asked me about a gun.My therapist never asked either,I told him I had one.Maybe that was not such a good idea. But he does know there was a home invasion next door that wound up being a fight between the home owner and two drug addicts.She could not get to her gun,so she clocked the guy over the head with a wine bottle,the other one ran after away.And when I went to the ER a few summer back,no questions about a gun either,just what meds are you on.
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Good for the goose.
How will the armed forces defend us from foreign enemies, or for that matter, how would law enforcement protect us from criminals?
-Bill, otherwise known as Kraichgauer
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