Is "Stand your ground" helpful or dangerous?

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So you see my point. I may get some heat for this but I think gun ownership needs a little more education than just gun handling and background checks. If people are so determined to use guns as a defense then I think it is only fair that they be tested on the understanding of self defense law, understand their limits and options before owning a gun

b. Met force with like force.

By the story, gun pulled and fired from inches away, where a poke in the ribs would have ended the fight.

The right to defend yourself has to do with where you are. In your home, car, yes, but not standing on the Interstate shooting cars coming toward you.

As The Onion advised Black teens, live naked and fall to your knees and pray, making it hard for anyone to claim you are a threat. It also advised that they did not go out in public, staying home is best.

Now if the Banditos went into a Hells Angels bar, wearing colors, they could claim their lives were in danger, if would be a hard fact to refute. The Angels could make the same claim.

A lot of Black on Black crime is self defense. They never use the defense, they just vanish. That was a, him or me, situation.

The concept of anywhere anytime, and using deadly force against that unarmed girl who slapped you, is pushing reason, even if a martial arts master could kill with a slap.

All you did was tell her she had nice tits and to get in your car and do you a favor. That is not against the law.

The Police who do wander around, mostly wear uniforms, carry guns openly, wear hats, and identify themselves as The Police, for the benefit of blind people. Even in the worst of situations, they yell Police!

Now Zimmerman was not even wearing a hat. Neighborhood Watch is to watch, and call the Police. In Public Places the Police have an exclusive.

Second, I can recall no case where Neighborhood Watch killed an unarmed person for walking down their street. Not even an armed one.

Well, in Texas someone did shoot two burglers who were robbing the house next door. He was not Neighborhood Watch, just Texan. They did not live there and were carrying the TV out. He did call the police, then shot them. They were doing crime.

Zimmerman chased a teen around at night, by car, then on foot, and off the sidewalk, No doubt, this guy is after you, in the dark. That it turned out as it did, if it had been a real burgler, he would have been dead.

Stalking, menencing, are not mentioned in the Neighborhood Watch stuff, except to say, dont do it. When the Police do arrive, they do not park out front, two come from behind, and some guy standing in the backyard with a gun can wind up dead.

Martin had a reason to be there, Zimmerman did not. Martin was returning from the 7/11, and a hundred paces from his door.

I cannot see Martin turning and coming back to the man who has been following him. More likely, Zimmerman charged, closed the distance between them, and a surprised Martin punched him.

The story supports Martin withdrawing from conflict, and Zimmerman advancing.

Pictures from the night show Zimmerman with a gangbanger beard, casual clothes, and looking like someone defending his drug selling turf.

If stand your ground can be transferred out to the public space, and cover situations that you had more than a little to do with causing, it becomes legal murder.

Your home, your car, is your space, chasing a stranger down the side walk you lose the right to space.

I am old, it is hot, I go walking after dark. I take this personally.

My whole relationship with public space just changed, and my response to anyone who stalks me. Where ever I am, I will treat it like being in my home.

.they just use guns when it suites there purposes.people who use guns in crime buy guns on the street before they need them and when done destroy them.the search of the person or residence of a gun criminal usualy fails to turn up a gun

So you didn't see the case just what the media said and now you think that things happened exactly the opposite of what was shown during the trial. Where Zimmerman called the cops chased a sneak thief 20 feet then was told to stop and did went back to his truck and was then sucker punched and jumped. Me ive been stalked in public places and its not guys like Zimmerman that are the problem its guys like martin that are a problem to deal with people like Zimmerman you act calm and courteous let them know why you are there what you are doing. If martin had done that he would be alive but he did the exact opposite of that he blindsided a person. Why because that is what criminals like him do they don't think just act on the most greedy an ignorant thoughts they have lucky for us and Zimmerman we still have a system that can sometimes see through biased agendas and give us real justice. Ive learned to deal with people like Zimmerman my whole life they are hot headed and decent people who don't like to leave everything to cops who rarely do anything about crime. So he was watching over his and his neighbors property saw a potential criminal and did what anybody who has a dick and balls would do. If this changes your whole relationship with public space and the people in it then it was a good thing not a bad thing. There is no use in being blind in this world there are lots of guys like Trayvon Martin down in Louisiana so keep that in the back of you head.

No I am not talking about training in gun handling I am talking about training of how to properly identify a threat and proper procedures to handle and if need be disable a possible threat.

Our law enforcement do. I'm not sure how they do it in the UK but our law enforcement are practically ready for war.

I do not live in a gated community but we do call the cops on suspicious people snooping around and will continue to.