DUI Teen Kills Four, Gets Probation

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I think there must be been a wired crossed somewhere.

GoonSquad said we should make things more just for everyone.

You said "I'd rather make things less for everybody, especially kids." Given GoonSquad was talking about justice, he interpreted your remark as a call for decreased justice (because otherwise it doesn't make sense). Then he posted a quote about a society without justice.

I'm guessing you misread the original post from GoonSquad.

I supposed I did. The only issue, though, is that we already have plenty of justice, I would think. If you look at other developed countries, sentences tend to be quite a bit less for many offenses than they are in the States. We have the largest prison population and the highest incarceration rate in the world. I think we could use a bit of loosening, if you ask me, especially for non-violent drug offenses. I think a lot of this is a huge contributor to inequality in this country.

Justice is not the same thing as incarceration, justice is the right outcome.

If you are of the opinion that the USA's huge prison population is injust, you want more justice from the justice system.

My problem is that if he emerges from prison without the resources to become a productive member of society, the chances of him deteriorating and re-offending are going to be multiples greater.

If you ask me, the UK makes it overly difficult to become a driver. The US has got it right with driving but oh so wrong with alcohol.

Us British Isler's have the opposite problem.

Manslaughter statutes are, in many contexts, analogous to the felony murder doctrine in that there is a "bad luck" component. How many teens/young adults have done something similar but just never had bad enough luck to hurt someone? Our criminal justice system traditionally has been based on the idea that one's punishment depends on the level and existence of a guilty mind (I say traditionally because of the ridiculous number of federal crimes that Congress churns out that have no mens rea requirement). So, the fact that there is a dead body means nothing. Some people who cause another person's death commit no crime while others are imprisoned for life or killed.