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03 May 2014, 1:28 am

heavenlyabyss wrote:
It was meant to be an idealistic post, perhaps with the secondary intention of provocation.


So, your usual hit and run, with some light trolling thrown in then?

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I do not have an irrational fear of guns. Where I live, gun homicides and suicides and accidents are actually pretty rare (I am lucky to live where I do). So when I walk around the neighborhood I am not afraid to be shot to death or anything like that. If I lived in a worse neighborhood I would probably be even more anti-gun than I am now.


So, you're basing your opinion on what again? You've just said that you have very little chance of encountering a gun day to day, which is an admission that they're not negatively effecting you, and then declared that you'd not change your mind in different circumstances, without really knowing how you'd feel under such circumstances. Raptor and I can both regale you with stories of anti-gun people who changed their tunes when they needed a gun and didn't have one, so I wouldn't be so quick to write it off.

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My point was simply that the majority of the population doesn't have to hunt and gather for their own food.


Hunting for food is the only use for firearms? Wow, the things I learn day to day, you'd think I didn't have a degree in gunsmithing and over a decade of firearms experience...

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It just seems very strange to me how humans like guns so much. Animals don't shoot guns.


Do I even need to mock you for this? Highlighting it is probably enough.

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Guns and weapons are an example of human innovation gone wrong.


Really now, the tools that allowed us to hunt larger game than we could have brought down with our natural equipment, thus laying the bedrock for civilization as we know it, are "innovation gone wrong"? Or, to talk about firearms specifically, the tool that made it possible for us to get out from under the tyranny of a martial class riding roughshod over the peons, as was the case when being a soldier was a lifetime commitment and armored knights (or samurai, etc) were virtually invincible due to their arms and training? Perhaps you should actually learn about things before deciding you're against them, just a crazy suggestion.

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Again, I am not talking about how things are at this very moment in time. Some people do in fact need guns to protect themselves. My post was meant to be an idealistic comment on how things should be, not how they are.


"How things should be" as decided by someone who knows nothing about the things in question... Great plan.


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03 May 2014, 7:51 am

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03 May 2014, 11:00 am

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I'd never even think of teaching a child to shoot a gun. There's no need for this nonsense in the modern world.

I just HAD to throw this in. :P
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03 May 2014, 10:11 pm

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Quoted for truth.



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03 May 2014, 10:33 pm

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That's quite manichean.



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03 May 2014, 11:24 pm

Manichean? I looked the term up and got something about Gnosticism. I don't know how it relates.



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04 May 2014, 10:44 am

By that I mean a black and white view of good and evil.



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04 May 2014, 12:34 pm

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By that I mean a black and white view of good and evil.

Then call it balance of power. It doesn't really need to be much more complicated than that.


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05 May 2014, 12:59 pm

Raptor wrote:
heavenlyabyss wrote:
I'd never even think of teaching a child to shoot a gun. There's no need for this nonsense in the modern world.

I just HAD to throw this in. :P
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Her parents should get her a gun with Hello Kitty on it.


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05 May 2014, 2:06 pm

Raptor wrote:
heavenlyabyss wrote:
I'd never even think of teaching a child to shoot a gun. There's no need for this nonsense in the modern world.

I just HAD to throw this in. :P
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Does anyone else think it's kind of ironic that she's wearing a jacket covered with peace signs while firing an smg? :lol:



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05 May 2014, 2:10 pm

/\ Not ironic if you believe in peace through superior firepower.


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05 May 2014, 5:56 pm

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/\ Not ironic if you believe in peace through superior firepower.


Fighting for peace is like screwing for virginity. ;) Of course, I could totally see how a situation could become peaceful after everyone involved is dead.



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05 May 2014, 6:21 pm

That's true,not many places are as peaceful than a cemetary.


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05 May 2014, 7:15 pm

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That's true,not many places are as peaceful than a cemetary.


Not just cemeteries ....

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05 May 2014, 7:57 pm

The American left will never understand the simple concepts of peace through strength or weakness invites attack.
Thier idea of peace is through disarmament (one sided disarmament, that is) and anti-bullying legislation.
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05 May 2014, 8:38 pm

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The American left will never understand the simple concepts of peace through strength or weakness invites attack.
Thier idea of peace is through disarmament (one sided disarmament, that is) and anti-bullying legislation.
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I'm not a part of the American left, I'm a part of the Canadian left. :P lololol...

I don't agree with disarming civilians who have proven that they can competently handle firearms however. In fact, I would argue that there should be a Canadian equivalent to the Second Amendment, except that our firearms laws do a pretty good job of keeping guns out of the hands of idiots, while not making life too hard on people who can handle guns responsibly. That said, if the laws could be tweaked a bit so that someone could own an AK as a "range toy", then it would be better.

Yeah, describing myself as a left-winger is a bit... odd. I have a bit more in common with the left than the right, but I'm not a granola-munching "save the whales" hippie either. I just believe in things that make sense. I have issues with some leftist values, I have issues with some conservative values, and I even have issues with some moderate values. You can't really put me on the conventional political spectrum.