That time Obama called Libya a Sh - t Show...

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It's purely about not being a hypocrite. Prole should practice what they preach and look at their own wrongs or their own team's wrongs before they go sqwarking at others.

Ironic, given that this thread was started by a Trump supporter squawking about something Obama did as an excuse for Trump's wrongs, no?

LOL. Where do you get your information from? You're saying my accusations are specious. There are examples of Obama alluding to the Muslim brotherhood. His father was a communist and he was highly influenced by his father's beliefs.

Liberals love to bash "the Bible belt'. The poorest places of America are still nicer than the third world countries. I've been to Appalachia. In general, they don't poop in the street in Knoxville, TN. I love liberal elitism. Its always bashing America and poorer Americans. Liberal logic: Ignore our own people that need help and make America a battered women's shelter for third world immigrants.

I really hope you're joking! My family has been in Richmond 11 generations. It is not nice anymore! Today's Richmond is a crime ridden city that has gone to hell in a hand basket. The Democratic control has turned it upside down into a disgusting hell hole with people who care more about removing "offensive" monuments than cracking down on crime and strife in the ghetto areas. And its full of dirty rude hipsters covered in ugly tattoos. The Yankees are moving in and telling us that being Southern is "racist" and we must rename all our streets, schools, and other public buildings. Meanwhile people are still getting shot in Gilpin Court. So yeah, it's nice if you like that sort of thing.

I'm a Yankee.

I wouldn't mind moving to the South some day.

I've met very nice Southern people

I wouldn't force my opinions upon people. I'm a "live and let live," kind of guy.

Obama hardly knew his biological father, who was an abusive drunk. Obama wanted nothing to do with him.
And don't you have to be a Muslim to belong to the Muslim brotherhood? Obama was raised irreligious, and later joined a Congregationalist church as an adult.

We are simply observing Trump's behavior and drawing our own conclusions.

Trump said that he would keep Muslims out of America ... and yet his "Muslim ban" doesn't apply to Saudi Arabia ... because nearly all Western politicians do business there.



Obama has no good reason to join the Muslim brotherhood. He is a Christian.

Additionally, several members of the Muslim brotherhood were killed by Obama during his presidency.
Additionally, Osama Bin Laden was killed without trial during Obama's presidency.

Seriously? How can you not see how self-contradictory this all is?

The only Muslim that Barack Obama likes is King Salman ... and nearly every American politician kisses his Muslim ass.



Okay. Now you've really lost me. You post has officially gone from "wrong" to "just plain surreal".

First of all, do you have any proof that Barack Obama Sr. was a commie? Are you just saying that because he helped the Kenyans become independent from Britain?

Second, Barack Obama filled his cabinet with Wall Street executives. That's not exactly something that a commie would do.

Third, throughout Obama's presidency, all of the communists hated him. Just ask any communist. They can't stand him.

Fourth, the Muslim Brotherhood is a far-right, anti-communist organisation.

See what I mean? Your post is outright surreal. You seem to think that everyone who isn't a Republican is conspiring against the Republican Party.

In France, there is a superhero called Superdupont, who is used to make fun of French conservatives. In the comic, our hero, Superdupont, fights against an evil organisation called "anti-France", which is made up of everyone who isn't French.

Superdupont is a character created as a joke ... but it seems that some people in real life actually have a similar worldview.

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I know the meme that you are referencing.

http://knowyourmeme.com/memes/designated-shitting-streets-poo-in-the-loo

The third world is extremely diverse. Don't put all of those countries on the same level as India.

Of course, Americans would likely be pooping in the streets if the welfare safety net was taken away. The streets of Victorian England were full of s**t. That's capitalism for ya.



... which is why I support universal health care and anti-corruption legislation.

Poor people often have improper hygiene. That isn't an insult. It is a statement of fact.

Most poor people I know have decent hygiene if modern plumbing is available. Many times, even if it isn't.

Most poor people of Africa are more fussy about clothes and body than we in the "first world" are.

Yeah sure, and you are a flying unicorn.

Yeah, and what is trump doing about displaced people...oh yeah building walls, or at least attempting to it would seem Mexico has not given Donald Trump money to build it with...so it will just come out of taxpayers pockets, no big deal.

I don't think that Powell is defending Trump.

It's totally possible to criticize both Obama and Trump. Both of them are militarists. Both of them support plutocracy. Both of them are okay with constant surveillance. They have many of the same problems ... despite their wildly different personalities.

Is rva accusing Obama of a wrongdoing, or is he accusing Obama-supporting Trump-bashers of hypocrisy? I'd say the answer's fairly self-evident, which renders the charge of tu quoque itself fallacious:



As you can see, rva supports Trump's alleged statement. The only logical inference is that he is therefore criticising the hypocrisy of holding different standards based purely on partisanship. Also note that he makes no judgement of Obama's alleged private use of "s**t show" to describe Libya (which I'm going to assume he also agrees with).

Whilst we're on the subject of logical fallacies, we could get super uncharitable about the following:



But I, for one, am content to grant you the benefit of the doubt and assume you meant that to be purely instructive.