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31 Dec 2021, 7:09 pm

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It is the job of the wokes to make the privileged as uncomfortable as possible as often as possible until they understand, and cancel those that are irredeemable. It is the duty of the privileged to "do the work" of constantly finding out how they are benefiting from their privilege, enabling their privilege, and doing and saying things to propagate their privilege and racism. Those who do not agree 100% with the woke worldview are showing their fragility

What absolute f*****g shite.

I am not agreeing with the above but describe the woke worldview.

Agreed. I'm half pissed and not reading full comments, yet alone making any sense of them. Sorry.

No problem, this stuff can be infuriating.

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01 Jan 2022, 8:43 am

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It is illegal to discriminate on the grounds of race in employment or housing. There are some very limited exceptions for some training initiatives which are designed to address an imbalance, but these are very rare and aren't "jobs".

It is happening here in Wales. I personally have been denied promotion to a job I had previously done in my past during my time with another employer and when I asked why a certain other staff member who had only ben there a year and did not even have experience in my side of the trade in which the head of the department position was being offered I was told "He is classed as an ethnic minority and you are not so we are not allowed to give you promotion". They had to send him to be trained. I needed hardly any training other then to adapt to their new till system as I had even been directly dealing with some of the suppliers they were using in my past position.
It then turned out that this person was quickly put on a course to be a store or area manager (This person was a young man who was a good worker but had little experience) because the company started letting go of senior position white men so they could comply with the equality laws.

If this is true, which seems unlikely, you should get yourself a lawyer and sue them. You would win a pretty hefty settlement.

You get no where in Wales like that.

You do if you are telling the truth. For example: https://www.theguardian.com/uk-news/202 ... and-ageism

There are no "racial equality laws" that would require someone to let go of people on the grounds of race or gender. Indeed, that is explicitly illegal. If this had happened, the senior white men who are aware of their rights would have sued and it would have been a major news story (the British press is very right-wing and loves reporting on these sorts of cases). It therefore seems extremely unlikely that it actually happened.

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01 Jan 2022, 5:58 pm

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: Also, this "woke" ideology only grew during that oaf's time in office. I have a feeling it would only get worse if he were to somehow defy all odds and get re-elected.

I agree that that the election and continued support of Trump made the problem a lot worse by seemingly validating the idea that America is irredeemably and systematically racist. I disagree with the part about long odds of Trump being re-elected. I think if a rerun of the 2020 election were held today Trump would win in a landslide. And the backlash against wokism would be a significant part of that.

I'll believe it when I see it. People have been predicting a "landslide victory" for Trump many times over, and it has yet to happen. People were outraged with "woke culture" before, and that didn't stop the majority from voting against him. If he were to manage to edge out a win in such a scenario, I guarantee it wouldn't be a "landslide", and it would probably have to do with Biden's handling of the pandemic and Afghanistan, both of which are far more likely to affect the 2022 midterm election than the one in 2024. Anyways, I'm still pretty sure someone who's in prison can't run for re-election. :roll:

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01 Jan 2022, 10:05 pm

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Anyways, I'm still pretty sure someone who's in prison can't run for re-election. :roll:

Trump isn't in prison, nor is he going to be.

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01 Jan 2022, 10:09 pm

Trump is basically above the law as most people are who get to be president.

No-one is going to imprison a president. It would make the United States look like a garbage can within the global, political arena.

Such thoughts and wishes are emotionally-fuelled, fanciful thinking.

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01 Jan 2022, 10:12 pm

Imagine the complete candy feast every other country in the world would have with the political story of Trump being imprisoned. It'd probably be referred to for a century as part of mainstream discourse & would empower America's enemies.

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01 Jan 2022, 10:14 pm

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Trump is basically above the law as most people are who get to be president.

It's not just that, he's the front runner for the GOP nomination in 2024, and the government of the ruling party jailing the leader of the opposition party is the sort of thing that might spark an honest to god shooting war.

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01 Jan 2022, 10:27 pm

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Trump is basically above the law as most people are who get to be president.

Yep, that works either way, Democrat or Republican. No president will ever be jailed if the U.S.A wishes to remain a superpower. It is political suicide to let such a thing happen for the entire country.

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01 Jan 2022, 10:36 pm

No American should be above the law if America still wants to be seen as a Constitutional Republic.

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01 Jan 2022, 11:08 pm

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Anyways, I'm still pretty sure someone who's in prison can't run for re-election. :roll:

Trump isn't in prison, nor is he going to be.

He isn't right now, but he will be. He's in a lot of legal trouble.

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01 Jan 2022, 11:21 pm

No U.S president is going to prison. You are all wrong. Sorry.

Time will demonstrate you to be wrong, I estimate.

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01 Jan 2022, 11:22 pm

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Trump is basically above the law as most people are who get to be president.

If his supporters would like to start a fight with the US military, they're welcome to try. I doubt they would get very far. :roll:

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01 Jan 2022, 11:44 pm

Tross wrote:

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Trump is basically above the law as most people are who get to be president.

If his supporters would like to start a fight with the US military, they're welcome to try. I doubt they would get very far. :roll:

It'd be bad for everybody if that happened. Worse for the Trump supporters. But yeah, a political disaster in any case.

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02 Jan 2022, 2:08 am

blitzkrieg wrote:

Tross wrote:

Dox47 wrote:

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Trump is basically above the law as most people are who get to be president.

If his supporters would like to start a fight with the US military, they're welcome to try. I doubt they would get very far. :roll:

It'd be bad for everybody if that happened. Worse for the Trump supporters. But yeah, a political disaster in any case.

I would think in that case, it being a political disaster wouldn't be the issue, or at least I hope not. Bloodshed is bad for everyone. My point is, it would end badly for the side who is likely to initiate it, and I would hope they know it. So, they're better off not going down that road. If they do, they will not have thought things through, which is further proof that they would be at a disadvantage.

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02 Jan 2022, 12:04 pm

I don't think there's much chance of Trump being held personally accountable for the Trump Organization's tax fraud, even assuming those allegations are 1) brought by the DA and 2) proven in court. I think there's essentially no chance of criminal prosecution relating to the insurrection. The biggest threat to his liberty is probably the pressure he put on Georgia to rig their election, but I'm not at all sure that ends with him behind bars.

I don't think anyone in the legal system would avoid convicting or sentencing him because he's a former President. Look how the government went after Spiro Agnew while he was the sitting Vice President, or how James Comey announced a new investigation into Hillary Clinton shortly before the 2016 election. There are plenty of recent cases of corrupt or criminal politicians being arrested for breaking the law without the country breaking out into lawlessness - for example, former Italian Prime Minister Silvio Berlusconi, who had been leading the Italian right for twenty years when he was sentenced to a year of house arrest and banned from public office for six.

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02 Jan 2022, 6:45 pm

Doberdoofus wrote:

No American should be above the law if America still wants to be seen as a Constitutional Republic.

Technically, we're an oligarchy with democratic principles.

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