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24 Feb 2023, 7:19 am

I don't want children either. My partner says I'm not allowed to say that in front of our daughter.


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10 Mar 2023, 8:58 am

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I don't want children either. My partner says I'm not allowed to say that in front of our daughter.

Confusing. Does that mean she thinks you're saying you don't want your daughter anymore? Or the common "the kids will be shaped by my beliefs" selfishness that saying usually means. Always hard with people who aren't natively speaking English. Even harder if they're violent and have no integrity.

Sorry you have to go through that in your marriage. You're inspiration.


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10 Mar 2023, 9:28 am

I have always been treated to this set of strange reactions, every time I have even dared to say I do not have children already. I'm 30+, I'm a "baby," Beet please. I don't want any more babies on top.

Hey, I'm single. "Oh you have to have kids soon!" Whom with? Do you even logically lift? We are obviously from separate worlds with different laws of the universe where in yours everything flies.

To be a father, or a mother, you have to ensure that child will have a mom and a dad forever. And you cannot fail. There is no "I want a child, I don't like the woman" thing I have heard. That child needs the mother. That child needs the couple. And they do it while theyre not even able to make a good plan about how the child will be treated, and how it will need parents who are very reliable by its side. I'm not talking about accidents, aborted. I'm talking about decisions.

"God has left man with woman so that they can" Become a virus, you say? It is well known ever since the making of the movie Matrix that humanity is to be rather compared to a virus, because it spreads unlike any other mammal. We are it. Every decision about whom to and how to sleep with someone will influence the history of mankind, the Earth, the existence and the IQ of humanity. We are directly responsible for this future and many generations to come that will turn in a major part of the population on Earth.

That is why this information was decided to be guarded from the public view in real life, because I practically should not exist in reality, in people's views. But I do. So I'll keep living by myself, thanks.

The laws on Abortion in America are being endangered by the same set of people who do not realize or know much about the world. Yes, America, the becoming s**thole of the Earth. The propaganda keeps people believing America is the land of freedom, and hope, however it has gotten severely out of hand. Lies propagate actors in America, the same actors whom the whole world pays and watches constantly, that teens and married men of unlikely values jerk off to. Abortion, an indispensable part of contraception and the only sure-way to prevent something undesired. It should be no surprise we are more sexual than animals and we have gone far creating a lot of stuff to satisfy our wild desires. Make no mistake, we have become wilder.

Hang on a minute, America is giving Africans condoms? But they cannot hold their stuff together in their own land. Their junk in their trunk. They have not only taken away the Diaphragm, but they are willing to take away the most important of them all. The decision of motherhood and fatherhood that belongs to the people in cause. Humans are but experiments of religious beliefs. Trump was wanting to allow clans to be able to decide whether or not laws apply in religious clans or the clan psychopath has all the power. Bravo. No. Somebody like my dad needs to be stopped.

The false impression we have of evolving, technology evolves, while our brains naturally, do not.

From America, the continent of freedom, to Europe where I am, the land of principles, the fish are getting scared. And for good reason.

While the world is turning into a big poop, and we cannot manage the amount of flesh we produce, the maggots which we fail to educate, just so that a bunch of lone wolves can enlighten them and stop them from being suicidal. Like my friend would say "Overpopulation, Undereducation" to which I'd add, Society's "creation."


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10 Mar 2023, 9:58 am

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From America, the continent of freedom, to Europe where I am, the land of principles, the fish are getting scared. And for good reason.


Earth is being translated by religious beliefs as being flawless and perfectly functioning, a set of another propaganda to brainwash. The only reason we can deny the s**t we're making and we're living in is because we're vulnerable to stupidity. "Human beings are oh so deceivable, oh so promiscuous with what's believable." Wars, harm, abuse, child abuse, dominance, technology getting less reliable like new home lights which have to be changed entirely, not just the bulb, pollution and while we transform vegan, we are traveling in jets. Lied to, while controlled for our human bodies, so fragile to disease and damage, and finances which we work for. Robbed by the state and not given improvements. Our privacies violated by the state's responsibility to know and not only its own. Famine, inequality, oppression.

I didn't choose this, nobody does. The ethics of the consent, the morality of the situation cannot be implemented in any way, refusal to breed is the only prevention to the rise of such ethical responsibilities the world will never be able to deal with.

What about if I like kids? Surely people should know not everybody does. "You'll grow into it." "Oh I learned so easily" Just like you'll grow a brain?

My own mother after had admittedly done the mistake of her life, had she "known" (known what, that she can think and decide for her future?), had attempted to make it also for another generation. "I'll take care of it" Sure, like you took care of all the kids you've abused that are half humans today? Just like you clean up after yourself? Some people are unbelievably mentally "gifted."

Some people really can't take care of their own selves. When realization happens, then it's a big miracle. Unlike when 10000 people die but a pregnant woman survives kind of miracle. And that could cause an array of changes and decisions an individual can make for themselves and everyone else. That is what it means to be responsible. That shows maturity. I was called all sorts of names for these decisions, by the closest humans in my life. But that is truly, quality decision making, proof of abstination and strength and that is why I live a life which is not much less dear to me and survivable.


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10 Mar 2023, 10:24 am

I'm full of disease. I might look perfectly normal, I might get talked about like I should of been suffering much more after I heal. Starting from "How many things are wrong with your womb" to "Why do you take so long to dress up and everyone laughs after you're done" my human condition bounds me to genes I find the least satisfying and hardest to live with. If I go up my genetic tree, I would say life has intentionally picked a personal fight with me.

I also think Autism is the hardest set of issues bestowed upon someone. From executive dysfunction, to issues every time I need to communicate, receive information and work issues out in life, to not fitting in and being a constant victim for my neighbors to oppress and to the struggle to connect to people that I have nothing in common with already. I would have to be legally crazy to bestow these curses upon some innocent child. I'm not Putin, thankfully. That seems to be the only stupidity I've managed to escape. And sometimes, in a world of "Putins," it's better to be it. But the madness needs to stup.

Especially me not having a father, the kid will have one support less. Dare I say there are no relatives either. And if people think that marriages overseas are ideal, I'll just let RetroGamer87 talk.


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11 Mar 2023, 10:44 pm

In order to understand how cruel life is we have to look into the details of Joseph II's marriage and children.


"Joseph married Princess Isabella of Parma in October 1760, a union fashioned to bolster the 1756 defensive pact between France and Austria. (The bride's mother, Princess Louise Élisabeth, was the eldest daughter of the incumbent King of France. Isabella's father was Philip, Duke of Parma.) Joseph loved his bride, Isabella, finding her both stimulating and charming, and she sought with special care to cultivate his favor and affection. Isabella also found a best friend and confidant in her husband's sister, Maria Christina, Duchess of Teschen.

The marriage of Joseph and Isabella resulted in the birth of a daughter, Maria Theresa.[1] Isabella was fearful of pregnancy and early death, largely a result of the early loss of her mother. Her own pregnancy proved especially difficult as she suffered symptoms of pain, illness and melancholy both during and afterward, though Joseph attended to her and tried to comfort her. She remained bedridden for six weeks after their daughter's birth.

Almost immediately on the back of their newfound parenthood, the couple then endured two consecutive miscarriages—an ordeal particularly hard on Isabella—followed quickly by another pregnancy. Pregnancy was again provoking melancholy, fears and dread in Isabella. In November 1763, while six months pregnant, Isabella fell ill with smallpox and went into premature labor, resulting in the birth of their second child, Archduchess Maria Christina, who died shortly after being born.

Progressively ill with smallpox and strained by sudden childbirth and tragedy, Isabella died the following week. The loss of his beloved wife and their newborn child was devastating for Joseph, after which he felt keenly reluctant to remarry, though he dearly loved his daughter and remained a devoted father to Maria Theresa.

For political reasons, and under constant pressure, in 1765, he relented and married his second cousin, Princess Maria Josepha of Bavaria, the daughter of Charles VII, Holy Roman Emperor, and Archduchess Maria Amalia of Austria.[2] This marriage proved extremely unhappy, albeit brief, as it lasted only two years.

Though Maria Josepha loved her husband, she felt timid and inferior in his company. Lacking common interests or pleasures, the relationship offered little for Joseph, who confessed he felt no love (nor attraction) for her in return. He adapted by distancing himself from his wife to the point of near total avoidance, seeing her only at meals and upon retiring to bed. Maria Josepha, in turn, suffered considerable misery in finding herself locked in a cold, loveless union.

Four months after the second anniversary of their wedding, Maria Josepha grew ill and died from smallpox. Joseph neither visited her during her illness nor attended her funeral, though he later expressed regret for not having shown her more kindness, respect, or warmth. One thing the union did provide him was the improved possibility of laying claim to a portion of Bavaria, though this would ultimately lead to the War of the Bavarian Succession.

Joseph never remarried. In 1770, Joseph's only surviving child, the seven-year-old Maria Theresa, became ill with pleurisy and died. The loss of his daughter was deeply traumatic for him and left him grief-stricken and scarred. Lacking children, Joseph II was ultimately succeeded by his younger brother, who became Leopold II."

"Here lies a ruler who, despite his best intentions, was unsuccessful in all of his endeavors." (Hier liegt ein Fürst, der trotz der besten Meinung keiner seiner Pläne durchsetzen konnte)

Very good, isn't it.


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11 Mar 2023, 11:30 pm

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Defying biology

There are many women in our society who aren’t interested in having children.

For instance, the number of US women between 34 and 44 who have never had children has increased by around 10% since 1976. And a survey of more than 7,000 Australian women between 22 and 27 years found nearly 10% didn’t want children.


https://findanexpert.unimelb.edu.au/new ... not-babies



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11 Mar 2023, 11:40 pm

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There are many women in our society who aren’t interested in having children.

For instance, the number of US women between 34 and 44 who have never had children has increased by around 10% since 1976. And a survey of more than 7,000 Australian women between 22 and 27 years found nearly 10% didn’t want children.


https://findanexpert.unimelb.edu.au/new ... not-babies

I'm glad about Australia, you know. With that few heads per kilometer in Sydney it can actually get aired out. Instead of not being able to make it past so many people like here and they live piled up over each other. Every time they poop you can smell it for hours.


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12 Mar 2023, 1:44 pm

The universe will one day be cold. It's all effort that will come to an end.


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14 Mar 2023, 4:32 pm

Because children require a lot of products and waste, additional transport, and branch into others eventually, interestingly enough there's a lot of pollution being prevented in not having children.


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16 Mar 2023, 4:39 am

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Because children require a lot of products and waste, additional transport, and branch into others eventually, interestingly enough there's a lot of pollution being prevented in not having children.


Anyone who doesn't have a child will never have to worry about their carbon footprint ever again. 8)



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The universe will one day be cold. It's all effort that will come to an end.


"Eyes wide shut." 8)



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16 Mar 2023, 12:10 pm

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I don't see it as a problem. All she has to do is stay single or find a partner who does not want children.


That is rather rare.
Also, did you watch the video that talks about social pressure to have children?


Not as rare as you think. I didn't really want to have kids and would have been ok with a spouse that didn't want them either. I have a few relatives who are married where the guy didn't want to have kids.



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16 Mar 2023, 2:55 pm

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The universe will one day be cold. It's all effort that will come to an end.


"Eyes wide shut." 8)

You know it, mankey. :heart:
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I don't see it as a problem. All she has to do is stay single or find a partner who does not want children.


That is rather rare.
Also, did you watch the video that talks about social pressure to have children?


Not as rare as you think. I didn't really want to have kids and would have been ok with a spouse that didn't want them either. I have a few relatives who are married where the guy didn't want to have kids.

Unfartunately (the joke is people are having kids like farting) the only person I know is a daughter of a friend who moved (to another country), and there is strangeness and lack of acceptance of the fact coming from her mom who expects grandkids. And mom tells me stories about practically everyone in the city and beyond, she knows a lot of people.


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17 Mar 2023, 10:12 pm

Children manipulate parents against one another (I think someone already said it), and having a little girl will make it easier for couples to break up, in a surveillance taken in China.

Most people wish for an ever after happy relationship, but some feel like the family/couple is not entire until there is a kid. Then they surely feel that even less when there is a divorce, and the kid will too.

According to a study conducted by wf-lawyers.com, about 50% of marriages in the United States end in divorce. Of those divorces, about 80% are initiated by women. That 50% figure is often cited and is likely to be on the high side, but it is illuminating that 80% of divorces are filed by the wife. :o


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