Is it WRONG to own guns, rifles, swords, knives, etc.?

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They banned all handguns in the UK a few years ago, after a particularly nasty school shooting, performed by someone who should have been institutionalised, but wasnt. Did gun crime drop?

NO.

All the ban did was criminalise our olympic shooting team.

As for sword and knives and such.. everyone everywhere, has a huge battery of knives in their kitchen, many of which are much longer than the "legal blade length", and a damn sight sharper. FFS they sell them on the basis you can cut metal with them. You could kill someone with ANY of them.. so where is the point in banning display level weaponry? Half of that is badly made bollocks that would snap if you looked at it, and goes blunt when you touch it with a cushion wrapped in kittens. Likewise, what exactly is the point of banning craft knives, or hunting/survival knives? What are we supposed to cut plastic with? Harsh language? Knives are too broad a spectrum to be bannable.

Theres no point even starting me on axes, for much the same reason. Whilst ever people need to eat, there will be knives, and stabbings.

a**holes were murdering other people with rocks and clubs before firearms were invented. People have been murdered with screwdrivers, hammers, wrenches, etc. If a**holes want to murder someone with the least risk to themselves, they will find a way. It isn't bearing arms legally that's causing the problem, it's using them illegally.

While you're banning them why not also ban the above-mentioned tools, nails, boards, saws, all rocks (even decorative), metal rules (especially retractable tape rules), drain cleaners, bleach, tweezers, scissors, pliers, mop/broom handles, plastic bags, large books, electricity, fire, any appliance that one person can lift and carry (and drop on someone), chisels, punches, pencils, pens, bicycle parts, car parts, gasoline, diesel fuel, fertilizer, spray products, wire, rope, string, pest control chemicals, hypodermic needles, water, bottles made of any hard material, ET f*****g CETERA.

Regarding farmers: There aren't enough police to protect every farm 24/7 from roving criminals. They need firearms for self-protection. Yes, some farmers are killed before they can get their weapons while others scare/fight off intruders and survive. I don't know which number is bigger. Enlighten me and back it up with a neutral reference.

Banning obvious weapons is the easy sound bite the politicians latch onto. The real problems are the criminals and what causes them. Hard problems that need hard answers. The pols don't like that. There's no quick glory for re-election in long-term solutions to anything, so we get media blitzed into easy answers until we're brainwashed. Think the answers are obvious? Obvious answers for over ten thousand years are why the human race is knocking on death's door now.

Leave the weapons debate alone and focus on what can be done to properly raise children currently in danger of becoming part of the criminal culture. It will mean compromising some parental rights instead of weapons ownership rights. Refine the definition of conditions hazardous to raising children to add criminal parents. If we need to take kids away from unfit parents and sterilize the parents, do it. If we need more jails, build them. It will cost less to house and feed criminals than to let them wander around and rob and kill. Meanwhile, they can't reproduce and their population declines. Or is breeding out criminals considered genocide? Make a national unfit parents registry and don't let them adopt or reproduce.

I can't name any politician anywhere with the guts to stand up for long-term solutions. I can't name any nation with a population sensible enough to demand long-term solutions. The overall maturity of people in the world is at 13 years old and holding. Go ahead and ban guns. That way, it'll be safer for someone with an illegal gun to kill you.

parakeet: that's the kind of BS thinking that has made you rely on that stupid amendment in the first place, and why your nation needs to grow up and stop this bully-boy mentality. FFS, can anybody give me a serious reason why, in 2007, they should need a weapon while walking down to the local milk-bar to get a can of Coke? If your society has become so screwed up that this has to happen, then maybe a mass suicide campaign wouldn't be too far from being a reality. Because technically what you are doing by carrying these weapons is guaranteeing that you WILL be killed, suicide by proxy, so to speak. And for what? Because some outdated piece of legislation allows you to do this? F*cking pathetic. OK, if you all want to carry these stupid weapons and be absolute tosspots, thinning the herds looks like the best option. Oh, and just remember, you can't sue anyone for pointing out the f*cking obvious.

Annoying flamers...

Calm down you and stop being so silly, and stop shouting. I have not said anything about mass genocide, or nuking you family or whatever, so get off your soapbox. Quatermass is more than likely going to tell you to pull your head in.

I just reposted what you wrote in case you decide to edit your meaning away. Ad hoc dismissals of vile attacks cannot change what you meant.

I can think of a couple people here being immature, but its not the funny kind its the annoying kind.

Giving up the 2nd ammendment is basically like telling the government "hey, you can have my rights". Without the right to carry a firearm, you have no means of protecting the other rights. What the hell are you gonna do with your hands, or with a baseball bat, against an organized military complete with guns, choppers, tanks, and mortars?
Yes you COULD argue that even then your out-gunned, but at least it would give you a somewhat fighting chance. I'd rather die fighting than live as a prisoner to an oppressive system.

snake: the protection against bad governing is for EVERYONE to vote at the next election and make sure you get the government you want. What are you going to do with all these weapons if you say that they are for that reason? Start a revolution? OK, while we sit back laughing at how stupid that is, all you private citizens will be waging war on your own government, which just happens to have an army to back it up, and there you go.. pfffffft.

Irresponsible people carrying weapons that are designed to KILL is an accident waiting to happen. Something that is even obvious to Blind Freddie. Also obvious is the mindset that the American people have toward violence; it's a 'kill or be killed' philosophy that should have died when Custer took his last breath, but generations of people have upheld this mindset, and that's why America is in so much trouble. Relying on old laws in modern day society should be done away with, and the Constitution should be rewritten to reflect how society has changed. And if you feel you need the protection of a weapon under that amendment, then obviously you can't have much going for you.

Join the army or the police if you want to bear arms, because really, they should be the only groups entitled to do so.