Why are the English so vulgar these days

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02 May 2011, 6:13 am

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I am working class and I'm not ashamed of it! we're not all "chavs" either. just because you're not descended from royalty or nobility or didn't have a private education does not make you inferior- I would rather be "common" than a snobby upper class twit.

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02 May 2011, 8:03 am

I do admire people who are well-educated, tactful, eloquent and have excellent manners. Some of my ex-co-workers in London were such 'upper-class' people. Everyone's an individual, but it is atrocious the way so many English people use the English language nowadays and how little manners they can have. My English ex (working class) made much stronger point of this than I ever did.

Eloquent and tactful doesn't equal to snobby.

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02 May 2011, 3:31 pm

The British royal family has been known for being vulgar and ignorant since Hanoverian days. They were also inbred and insanity afflicted many of them. George V, whose final words either were "God damn you!" or "Bugger Bognar" was uncultured and spent his time gunning down tigers and pheasants. The only one with a decent reputation was George III who happened to go mad late in his reign. George VI was a mental wreck who smoked himself to death. Elizabeth II at least seems to be all right. These royals also were serial philaderers, most of them, alcoholics, used cocaine and laudinum and what have you.

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02 May 2011, 3:41 pm

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The truth is am sad to say is that American culture has played a big role in dumbing down the Queen's English and also the English culture. lol Lilya I bet your ex used some industrial language to express that point, yes our working classes are used to using that kind of language, I can't talk am of working class stock myself :lol:

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02 May 2011, 3:45 pm

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I have news for you. They've always been "vulgar". You've been mislead by the fact that English society has, until recently, always been represented by the upper class in the media.

Very true - the UK has always (historically) been represented by royalty, senior politicians and wealthy people, almost always from southern England.

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02 May 2011, 3:49 pm

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That's what he used to say about the Americans as well... :lol:

Actually, he's one of the most eloquent people I know. Despite having born to a working class family and having eventually chosen a very low income trade, he's actually very well educated.

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02 May 2011, 3:54 pm

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There used to be an English show that used to touch on class stratification in England called "Keeping Up Appearances". The main character, Hyacinth lives in an white collar neighborhood and ius quite concerned with appearances and social status. However she comes from a poor, working class family, and the living situation and culture of her sisters is quite different from that of her own.

The actress Patricia Routledge who played Hyacinth Bucket was born in Tranmere, Birkenhead as working class part of the Wirral. Geoffrey Hughes who played Onslow was born in Wallasey a mostly upper class part of the Wirral (at the time of his birth).

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02 May 2011, 4:04 pm

Lilya wrote:

cdfox7 wrote:

Lilya wrote:

That's what he used to say about the Americans as well... :lol:

Actually, he's one of the most eloquent people I know. Despite having born to a working class family and having eventually chosen a very low income trade, he's actually very well educated.

Well us working classes do value education, I was the first member of my family to graduate from university, not from a too bit university but from a Redbrick university. My city done's have a lot of cultural influence from American considering our maritime history then again Liverpool did cultural influence American music now

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02 May 2011, 4:10 pm

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Geoffrey Hughes who played Onslow was born in Wallasey a mostly upper class part of the Wirral (at the time of his birth).

Who was also in The Royle Family (referenced in the YouTube clip above), playing a dodgy character who usually turns up with stolen goods to sell.

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02 May 2011, 4:13 pm

Tequila wrote:

cdfox7 wrote:

Geoffrey Hughes who played Onslow was born in Wallasey a mostly upper class part of the Wirral (at the time of his birth).

Who was also in The Royle Family (referenced in the YouTube clip above), playing a dodgy character who usually turns up with stolen goods to sell.

Yer la I know was dealing with the Keeping Up Appearances referenced, he was also in Corrie!

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02 May 2011, 4:15 pm

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Yer la I know was doing with the Keeping Up Appearances referenced, he was also in Corrie!

I wasn't directing it at you, Scouser. I was directing it for them people who are all foreign-y. Like them Americans and that.

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02 May 2011, 4:19 pm

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02 May 2011, 4:19 pm

Tequila wrote:

Chronos wrote:

I have news for you. They've always been "vulgar". You've been mislead by the fact that English society has, until recently, always been represented by the upper class in the media.

Very true - the UK has always (historically) been represented by royalty, senior politicians and wealthy people, almost always from southern England.

Why are there quite a few of 'us lot' on WP? :lol:

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02 May 2011, 4:24 pm

Tequila wrote:

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Yer la I know was doing with the Keeping Up Appearances referenced, he was also in Corrie!

I wasn't directing it at you, Scouser. I was directing it for them people who are all foreign-y. Like them Americans and that.

I know like, to be honest if Johnny Foreign wishes to attack the English people & our culture then they can get for there arses & educate themselves about our ways before attacking us as an nation. Then they will understand that the English are no all vulgar.
Have we English gone around saying that another is country is 'vulgar' no we have not!!

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02 May 2011, 4:26 pm

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Have we English gone around saying that another is country is 'vulgar' no we have not!!

We don't usually go round slagging off other countries. Not unless we have gone on holiday there and it turned out to be a hole.

Or it's a nation full of deadbeats.

Or we're talking about Scotland.

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02 May 2011, 5:50 pm

Tequila wrote:

cdfox7 wrote:

Have we English gone around saying that another is country is 'vulgar' no we have not!!

We don't usually go round slagging off other countries. Not unless we have gone on holiday there and it turned out to be a hole.

Or it's a nation full of deadbeats.

Or we're talking about Scotland.

Let's not start on the whole England/Scotland mutual hatred. :roll:

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