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22 Feb 2012, 11:08 pm

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I'd make Detroit into a maximum security prison, dump the sterile couples who can't have kids there with nothing but the clothes on their backs, and let God sort the scumbags out.


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23 Feb 2012, 12:41 am

If I were head of state, I'd be assasinated by some right-wing nutjob within a week of taking office.



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23 Feb 2012, 2:55 am

i wonder what percentage of assassins are right-wing versus left-wing? btw, did you know there are two asses in assassins? maybe it's because assassins end up making an ass out of themselves in addition to their victims?
anyways, if i were emperor, i'd [in a somewhat cavalier social experiment] scotch all the gun laws [not relating to felons] and allow this nation to be ever more flooded with firearms of all descriptions [but i'd leave the related tort laws alone], and see what happens. the right wing might wanna go back to the way it was before. my relations happen to be ex-gun merchants [at the company level], and they were driven out of business by product liability lawsuits. the courts might end up deciding the gun issue by economic default.



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27 Feb 2012, 8:42 pm

I would legalize the exposure of female nipples. And, declare them non-sexual.


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28 Feb 2012, 4:36 am

i would legalize total nudity and exhibitionism, including having sex in public.



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28 Feb 2012, 4:41 am

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Welfare reform: I don’t think we can get rid of it at this point but it can be greatly reformed. Recipients that can work would work doing something constructive. Publicly needed tasks like picking up trash along roads and parks, painting, planting trees, working at animal shelters, etc... The handicapped can do admin type work.


What if a handicapped person prefers animal shelters to admin work?


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29 Feb 2012, 5:08 am

First of all, I would suck, but there are some very obvious things that need to be done.

The White House should be made less extravagant. I would sell off all the expensive stuff and turn the white house into a nice, comfy, cozy house, try to take away some of the pretense.

I would not wear a suit or tie ever.

I would be brutally honest in speeches and not play politics.

I would hire very smart, very ethical people to work for me and I would let them make the difficult decisions for me. If a person failed to live up to decent ethical standards I would fire them and expose them.

I would expose all the fraud and corruption wherever I found it.

Last but not least, I would not be a hypocrite like Obama (sorry Obama, but seriously). I would get rid of this super pac nonsense once and for all even if it meant I would lose the next election. Obama is only hurting himself when he acts as a pushover. If only he would stand up for his convictions, I would show more enthusiasm for him.



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29 Feb 2012, 5:15 am

pandabear wrote:
I would legalize the exposure of female nipples. And, declare them non-sexual.


Ah, but the female nipples are receptors for sexual pleasure are they not?
Perhaps the sexualization of them is rooted deep in our subconscious pre-human minds, and manifests today in a moral form?

Still, I agree that the law should not punish people for exposing them.
Even legalized, society takes a little while to change it's opinions, so women who did choose to exercise this new legal right would likely face unofficial recourse, they would need to be strong social pioneers.



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29 Feb 2012, 5:17 am

I would divide the United States into bioregional units, and fuse the northern units with their continuations in Canada.



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01 Mar 2012, 2:03 pm

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it's too long to quote all of that, but I'll address as much as I can. I apologize if I miss something

First, I'm not claiming that I'd do a good job running the country. It would probably be a disaster. For reasons such as the ones you pointed out. I'm just talking about the ideal that, as an ecosocialist, I'd like to do.

You can't really have a lot of competition among airlines and rail-lines. We only have three halfway significant airlines and 2 rail-lines. Also, nationalizing the rail-lines would allow the passenger trains in all of Canada to run more quickly. I suppose in the case of airlines, better regulation could work as well, although low prices isn't exactly what I want, because flying is very carbon intensive. But by nationalizing Air Canada it would give some control over CO2 emissions from aircraft, which would be useful. And profits would become government equity (or be used to pay off debt).

I'm pretty sure that banks and the other services I mentioned could provide lower prices to people, but in any case I just feel that stuff which is so important should be under democratic control. Which is why I am also very positive about cooperatives as a way to do this. For the farms, if I understand what you are saying about the "closely held corporations," turning them into cooperatives shouldn't make much difference. It would just distribute control among the shareholders more equally.

I hadn't thought of pension plans, I admit. I didn't mention it, but I would make sure to have advisers who know about these sorts of issues and be able to suggest solutions. I suppose agreements could be worked out where the government starts paying those dividends at some negotiated level, adjusted for inflation. Also, I would look at using the Guaranteed Livable Income as a way to replace pensions in part (although only in part).

I agree, probably the only places high speed rail would work for now is the Corridor and maybe Calgary-Edmonton. As much as possible, the rail would be built over top of some of the lanes of multi-lane highways. This would increase congestion, but it would also help to discourage people from driving private automobiles. Another strategy would be to build it on elevated rail over top of current rail lines, although that would be expensive of course. Still, it would be a good stimulus project.

Good comment about the GG. I suppose it would make more sense to just have Parliament elect him or her. As for the Senate, I suppose another possibility would be to just give each province 10 senators (and maybe 5 to each territory). Each province could vote based on a party and the ten seats would be distributed by proportional representation or the system (which is kind of weird) that they use to elect MEPs in Europe. Or something along those lines.

I do think that the current Free Trade Agreements need to be greatly changed. They do undermine some of our national sovereignty. And I don't really like globalization in any case. Obviously we can't completely get rid of trade, for the reasons you mention, and so much of our economy depends on it. I think it might be worth diversifying our partners, especially expanding trade (but not free trade) with the Commonwealth. NAFTA needs to be radically renegotiated if we are to stay in it. I think though that trade agreements should be negotiated sector by sector.

I should probably mention too that I would reverse just about everything that the Harper government has done. We would be back in the Kyoto Protocol, the gun registry would stay, the Wheat Board would be brought back, etc. etc.


Here's what I like about your thinking: you are willing to examine it critically.

I might not agree that your ideas are the best ones--but that's entirely irrelevant. The thing that matters, as far as I am concerned, is that you're willing to look at the impacts of your thinking, and change your thinking to accommodate unintended consequences.

I am not altogether persuaded that other people would have a similar response to challenges to their thinking. Bravo.


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01 Mar 2012, 2:08 pm

I would likely have a socialist state with some influence from direct representational democracy. Basically it would consist of a similar legal process as the US with a lot of laws that prevent poverty and attempt tor egulate wealth while giving benefits to those that do more difficult work than others (based on educational level.)

I have long wanted communism to work but the people don't have enough of a say.

Anarchy often follows communism and is more of a transitory period.

But overall democracy or socialism is our best bet to evolve as a species, preferably in smaller subgroups that trade and share information between each other. Imagine a series of tribal villages with the power of the UN behind rpeserving peace...the creativity would be astounding.


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01 Mar 2012, 2:24 pm

No president really knows what ruins and horrors are in those Oval Office files until they open them. Probably half the promises a candidate makes end up being impossible after they see what is really going on.



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05 Mar 2012, 8:07 am

Do people know who I am? Like, is this an instant thing, or do I have to run for it? If people know who I am, I would resign immediately. If not, I establish a fall guy for public stuff. In private, I use my vast powers to get a bunch of food and eat so much. SO MUCH. Then I watch as the empire slowly crumbles.



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05 Mar 2012, 8:19 am

Yeah, I'd live a life of pure decadence. I'd build palaces and keep a vast harem, constantly be surrounded by courtiers groveling at my feet.
I would father hundreds of bastards ensuring my genetic lineage's survival far into the future, and many legitimate heirs and heiresses as well.
The legitimate ones would be given titles and married off into the oligarchy.
My word would ultimately be law, but I'd keep advisers to run things mostly.


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05 Mar 2012, 8:38 am

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Yeah, I'd live a life of pure decadence. I'd build palaces and keep a vast harem, constantly be surrounded by courtiers groveling at my feet.
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You would have a short time to enjoy it. There would be a revolution and you would not survive it.

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05 Mar 2012, 8:53 am

ruveyn wrote:
Subotai wrote:
Yeah, I'd live a life of pure decadence. I'd build palaces and keep a vast harem, constantly be surrounded by courtiers groveling at my feet.
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You would have a short time to enjoy it. There would be a revolution and you would not survive it.

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My PR firms would be running full tilt, I would beguile the masses with my boundless charisma.
Dissidents would be rooted out and made examples of. My military would be brainwashed zealots.


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