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22 Oct 2012, 7:29 am

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For example the descendants of Noah whe became the American Indians painstakingly took the rattlesnakes and black widow spiders with them to america ( and ONLY to america), but they did NOT bring horses and cattle with them.



America was actually peopled by Ancient Israelites who left Egypt on an ark. Just ask Mitt Romney about that one.

From the time of the flood, they had to make sure that the North American spiders and snakes didn't get out in the wrong place.



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22 Oct 2012, 11:30 am

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Freshwater fish also had to be brought to the correct rivers and lakes. They wouldn't be able to swim across oceans by themselves.


God Himself picked them up in an aquarium and brought them to another fresh water place. Right? Sure.

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Are you sure that this story is completely unapocryphal?

Some Christians might believe it, and if it turns out actually to be incorrect, then they won't be admitted into Heaven, and it will be all your fault.



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22 Oct 2012, 7:27 pm

If there really was an ark why the h$&l did Noah let the ticks and fleas on?



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22 Oct 2012, 8:02 pm

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If there really was an ark why the h$&l did Noah let the ticks and fleas on?


I guess that couldnt be helped. They were uninvited passengers riding on the hides of the animals that he did invite aboard. And they didnt have DDT back then to douse the animals with.



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23 Oct 2012, 7:25 am

naturalplastic wrote:
Misslizard wrote:
If there really was an ark why the h$&l did Noah let the ticks and fleas on?


I guess that couldnt be helped. They were uninvited passengers riding on the hides of the animals that he did invite aboard. And they didnt have DDT back then to douse the animals with.


Noah and his family could have picked through them. Our species has fingers and opposable thumbs.

If fleas and ticks had ticked off God, then God would have killed all of them in the flood, together with the dinosaurs and mastodons.

God liked them enough to tell Noah to bring a pair of each on board.



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23 Oct 2012, 8:26 am

They should have invested in a flea comb,but those old prophets did like to suffer so maybe Noah did enjoy being bitten.



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23 Oct 2012, 9:03 am

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They should have invested in a flea comb,but those old prophets did like to suffer so maybe Noah did enjoy being bitten.


Are you kidding!?

As if building an ark, and then creating a spaceship-like life support system for specimens of a million species of animals (supplying them all with food, air, and water. And carting away the solid waste- and the urine) wasnt enough work for a 600 year old man and his handful of sons and inlaws!


The parasites that live inside animals (like tape worms), and on the outer hides of animals (like ticks) simply rescued themselves-without even knowing it by riding the animals invited on board.

But yes- how and why did mosquitoes get rescued?
Those are two open questions.

Mosquitos breed in standing water, and the whole planet was inundated. But it was the wrong kind of 'standing water'- it was chopping seas that were just as deadly to mosquito larvea as the sea and big lakes are now.

Someone mustve left a container of standing water out on the deck of the ark!



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23 Oct 2012, 9:27 am

They must have got lazy when they left that water out :lol: And they could have dosed the animals with wormwood,those old prophets love wormwood.And brimstone.



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23 Oct 2012, 9:57 am

They would have done it, if God had told them to. Noah and his sons and in-laws were perfect in their obedience to God (obviously, or they would have drowned).



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23 Oct 2012, 7:25 pm

The Flood story is a morality tale, not a historical account.

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24 Oct 2012, 7:36 am

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The Flood story is a morality tale, not a historical account.

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It was an "inspired" morality tale.

Unlike Aesop, who derived his inspiration from Pagan Muses.



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31 Oct 2012, 3:03 pm

By the by, a city more than 6,000 years old was discovered in Bulgaria

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-europe-20156681

I'm guessing that this was fairly soon after the world was created, and before the Great Flood.

I wonder if any nephilim lived in the city?



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15 Nov 2012, 11:46 pm

Kraichgauer wrote:
ruveyn wrote:
Zodai wrote:
Two.

Either they were not evolved enough to be considered a different species, or God didn't notice the difference. I hate to think how boring life would be if God were drained of what individuality he likely has. No such thing as perfect, even for a God.


The ten thousand species of beetle that we know about (there are probably many more) could not have evolved by variation in the 5000 years since the Flood.

The Flood is a myth. There never was a world wide flood 5000 years ago, although 600,000,000 years ago the entire earth might have been covered with ice.

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Growing up, we had a Jehovah's Witness family living next door to us, and the mother had taken it upon herself to try converting me. One time, she had wanted to demonstrate to me how there had been a Biblical flood, but not an ice age. Taking an ice cube, she went over to sand box, and slid the ice along the sand, explaining how ice would only smooth out the earth beneath. Then, taking a hose, she sprayed water on the sand, her point being that torrents of water would tear up the earth, leaving canyons and mountains.
Yes, she was insane.

-Bill, otherwise known as Kraichgauer


she wasn't crazy crazy, was she?

[youtube]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gwu_cHgxlQU[/youtube]


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16 Nov 2012, 1:41 am

Marsupials? Tent dwelling sand people never heard of them so could not add them to their myth.



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16 Nov 2012, 11:55 am

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Marsupials? Tent dwelling sand people never heard of them so could not add them to their myth.


Nawww..

The authors of the bible just glossed over the kangarooos, and koalas. They were on the ark. Just didnt get listed in the old testament.

But it sure took alot of work to drag those koalas and kangaroos (not to mention the death adder snakes) from the ark's resting place on mount Ararat all of the way to Australia.