naturalplastic wrote:
Okay... so all these structures are actual artificial edifices, and not the products of tricks of the light (and the original posters powerful wishful thinking) according to you.
And they were all built by...angels.
So why did angels build stuff on Mars?
Angels or vastly pre-Adamic races.
The suggestion: this was literally as far back as Mars was habitable. Suggestions coming out are that it was 250 million years ago when the planet between Mars and Jupiter was shattered. The sphinx and pentagonal pyramids on Mars are 1 degree longitude from each other and surrounded by other similar sights of strange geometry. The pentagram is supposedly held in its esteem for all joices of the form being stacking angles of 36, 72, and 108 degrees; which are also mirrored from the key of Isis on our planet - ie. prime meridian, which we had resolved from occult sources. The tie in with mars - our scribing the pentagram over the northern hemisphere of earth by having major ruins every 72 degrees longitude and our attempts to tie heaven to earth via grounding the zodiac signs in structures appear to be what the Martians were doing, indicating that the mystery religions of ancient times might be far more ancient than we would have imagined.
naturalplastic wrote:
Even Harry Potter, and the Hobbit, had a storyline and an internal logic.
That's the beauty of making the whole thing up - with Harry Potter and the Hobbit JK and JRR have the whole 100% precisely because it came full package and plastic wrap out of their own minds via their fingertips and a typewriter/word processor. When recovering something that happened and only having pottery shards of history its not going to be as cohesive and, if going back millions or even hundreds of millions of years - on the premise that the best we can do by looking at historians from 1000 BC to 500 AD or so is grab a few pieces before the 10,500 BC cataclysm, obviously we'll be going out on a forensic limb and its up to us to see if anything else we can see from these times adds up with the forensic understanding. The good news at least for pre-pre history is that there were enough people in the last few millenia who devoted their entire lives to researching these things, firmly believing that there were ancient lines of technology and magic far in excess of sophistocation than anything we know to date. The building of megaliths all over the world with 200+ ton blocks, even getting up to 1,000 ton blocks, and moving these things miles to then lift then twenty to thirty feet, really forces us to wonder if there wasn't at least something to this idea prior to the 10,500 BC event. Even if we were to take the idea that every megalith had a spiral of sand around it to bring everything up to ground level then unbury it, were still talking about mind-boggling feats of engineering.
naturalplastic wrote:
So tell us the plot of this fantasy novel you're writing.
Do the research. The more I try to spoon-feed it in quick two or three line internet quibs the more it'll (falsely) look like there's no academic research behind it. If you don't buy any of the theistic or spiritualistic tenets that are precursory to the whole conversation - spend a few weeks researching those. If you already have all the answers without any research, well, we're wasting our time talking about this.
What I can tell you that on my own personal level I have found out, I'm clear on this, that not only are we not alone in the universe but that there's plenty of life all around us that can see and sense us even if we can't see or sense it. I was naively interested in speaking to it, gaining my own evidence, and I got that evidence albeit I found out that there's some rather nasty and deliberate deception coming up from it. So no, I didn't just watch a few videos, gasp, panic, and post this video in reaction. If anything part of the problem when trying to convey something like this is that no one shares my background in reading the kind of theosophic stuff as I did, trying the same experiments with their own consciousness, researching NDE's, and then seeing some incredibly apolling admissions not only of new age/theosophy and Gnosticism being Luciferian by nature but people who are self-avowed Luciferians also saying it plainly. For shape of current events you can find out things on HP Blavatsky, Alice Bailey, etc.. that cast a rather unfortunate eye on the new age movement as really being a public offering of ancient esoteric teachings.
If you believe there's no God, no nonmaterial existence, no spirituality, no Lucifer, and are fully vested both in reductive materialism and the idea that there was nothing to call civilization before Mesopotamia then the paragraph above is pure white noise and you'd claim that I'm bashing unicorns against fairies. That's also why I never had any intent of letting this be a debate thread; its simply not a topic where debate can be done if that requires my proving theism and then every topic along the way (at least I'm not willing to put that much effort in unless someone wants to sign me a huge book contract with some real cushy royalties). If I were open to debate anyone on this it would be someone who's willing to share the same facts but would state that they have very different conclusions or who would offer, say, other authors who've done a great job of coming up with very different conclusions by different orders of saliency or other facts not presented here. Trying to debate basic premise, no matter what the topic though, is a wasted endeavor.
04 Jan 2013, 7:31 pm
