18 May 2013, 10:50 pm
Misslizard wrote:
My health care provider never asked me any questions like that,they just do my blood work.All they ever ask about is what medication I'm taking.It's different at the Health dept for annual "lady checkups",they do ask about personal stuff,and I expect them to.But they have never asked me about a gun.My therapist never asked either,I told him I had one.Maybe that was not such a good idea. 
But he does know there was a home invasion next door that wound up being a fight between the home owner and two drug addicts.She could not get to her gun,so she clocked the guy over the head with a wine bottle,the other one ran after away.And when I went to the ER a few summer back,no questions about a gun either,just what meds are you on.
But he does know there was a home invasion next door that wound up being a fight between the home owner and two drug addicts.She could not get to her gun,so she clocked the guy over the head with a wine bottle,the other one ran after away.And when I went to the ER a few summer back,no questions about a gun either,just what meds are you on.Not all doctors will ask for complete backgrounds, especially in today's commoditized, fee-for-service medicine.
19 May 2013, 12:50 am
Kraichgauer wrote:
As for who is running roughshod over the rights of others - recently, a right wing talk show host ranted and raved how he would tell the loved ones of the Newtown victims that his liberty was more important than their loss. He was hardly just speaking for himself.
I didn't see it whatever it was. However, his liberty and mine have nothing to do with any victims in Newtown unless you're implying that us giving up our rights will prevent further shootings like that. You're not going to be that naive are you?
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As for who is actually walking lockstep here, I think ArrantPariah has already addressed that matter.
And in closing, being anal about proper spelling doesn't make you a Nazi, it just means you're more likely an Aspie. I should know - I go back and correct my errors constantly after I post.
And in closing, being anal about proper spelling doesn't make you a Nazi, it just means you're more likely an Aspie. I should know - I go back and correct my errors constantly after I post.
It's called satire.
19 May 2013, 12:55 am
LKL wrote:
Raptor wrote:
LKL wrote:
Raptor wrote:
LKL wrote:
Having a gun at home increases your likelihood of gun death, whether by your own hand or anothers'. It is a reasonable question to ask as part of a comlete patient history. A lot of background questions seem very invasive when one is taking a patient history - your sex life, your mental state, number and type of pets, etc - and all would be relevant for a complete general history, even for an immediate complaint of a sports injury.
Here we go again......
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Having a gun at home increases your likelihood of gun death, whether by your own hand or anothers'.
Yeah, forget that it can and often is used to defend oneself and just go with The Brady Center's "statistics"......NOT.
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It is a reasonable question to ask as part of a complete patient history. A lot of background questions seem very invasive when one is taking a patient history - your sex life, your mental state, number and type of pets, etc - and all would be relevant for a complete general history, even for an immediate complaint of a sports injury.
Try and rationalize it all you want, and I'm sure you will, but if it's not relevant to the issue at hand then it's none of anyone's business. Period.
Your statement is not accurate. It might not be relevant for an ER visit (ie, where they stabilize an injury and ship the patient out to someone else), but the standard of care for a GP requires that they treat the whole person, not just "the issue at hand." It might not quite be medical malpractice to avoid a complete history, but it certainly is sloppy at best.
Hope you didn't think I forgot about you.
Anyhoo, I looked at several GP patient questionnaires that I found online and none of them, not one, asked such silly and invasive questions about sex life, mental state, number and type of pets, or guns in the home.
Every question was actually relevant to the individual's health and health history including family health history, meds, smoking and drinking (which actually are relevant), etc.
I would immediately cease doing business with any healthcare provider that stepped out of line by asking such personal questions that you claim are relevant.
But then again I don't go to them unless I really need to. The only healthcare provider I see on a regular basis is the vet I take my dog to.
Sex life (ie, 'are you monogamous and satisfied') is relevant because it speaks to both STIs, likelihood of becoming a parent, and depression; pets are relevant because they affect allergies and depression. If a doc isn't asking about those, she's not being thorough. Of course, given that an appointment with a GP now often runs about 5 minutes, that is perhaps not too surprising.
Another important item that is often not included on a questionnaire is diet - do you eat enough fruits and vegetables, do you avoid fast food and soda. Extremely relevant to health, but often only discussed verbally or neglected entirely.
If it's a sexual related condition someone is being treated for, yes.
If it's an allergy that pets could attribute to, yes.
Otherwise it's irrelevant and nosy.
You know what I mean but whatever....
19 May 2013, 12:59 am
Misslizard wrote:
My health care provider never asked me any questions like that,they just do my blood work.All they ever ask about is what medication I'm taking.It's different at the Health dept for annual "lady checkups",they do ask about personal stuff,and I expect them to.But they have never asked me about a gun.My therapist never asked either,I told him I had one.Maybe that was not such a good idea. But he does know there was a home invasion next door that wound up being a fight between the home owner and two drug addicts.She could not get to her gun,so she clocked the guy over the head with a wine bottle,the other one ran after away.And when I went to the ER a few summer back,no questions about a gun either,just what meds are you on.
But he does know there was a home invasion next door that wound up being a fight between the home owner and two drug addicts.She could not get to her gun,so she clocked the guy over the head with a wine bottle,the other one ran after away.And when I went to the ER a few summer back,no questions about a gun either,just what meds are you on.And they shouldn't ask you about guns, that's the whole point.
About the only time that's come up between me and ANY doctor I've done business with is that a dentist I was going to I also saw at the shooting range and we talked a little about that and my dog's vet used to be a competitive shooter.
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19 May 2013, 2:26 am
Raptor wrote:
Kraichgauer wrote:
As for who is running roughshod over the rights of others - recently, a right wing talk show host ranted and raved how he would tell the loved ones of the Newtown victims that his liberty was more important than their loss. He was hardly just speaking for himself.
I didn't see it whatever it was. However, his liberty and mine have nothing to do with any victims in Newtown unless you're implying that us giving up our rights will prevent further shootings like that. You're not going to be that naive are you?
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As for who is actually walking lockstep here, I think ArrantPariah has already addressed that matter.
And in closing, being anal about proper spelling doesn't make you a Nazi, it just means you're more likely an Aspie. I should know - I go back and correct my errors constantly after I post.
And in closing, being anal about proper spelling doesn't make you a Nazi, it just means you're more likely an Aspie. I should know - I go back and correct my errors constantly after I post.
It's called satire.
He meant exactly what he said - the loss of life is not as important as his right to own or shoot whatever his black little heart desires.
-Bill, otherwise known as Kraichgauer
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