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Should Barack Obama be impeached?
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No 61%  61%  [ 37 ]
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11 Jun 2013, 6:50 am

The thought of Mindless Joe Biden as President fills me with dread.

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11 Jun 2013, 9:52 am

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Come to think of it ... shouldn't every president be required to endure impeachment midway through each term of service? Sort of like an employee review, but with more people taking part.
In ancient Rome, it became almost standard practice for provincial governors to be tried for malfeasance after they were recalled to Rome.

The more I think about it, the more sense it makes, except for the part about presuming that every president is guilty of something until proven innocent of anything.

Yeah ... mandatory mid-term impeachments ... I like that!



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11 Jun 2013, 9:53 am

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The thought of Mindless Joe Biden as President fills me with dread. ruveyn

Sometimes, I think that this is the only reason that Mr. Obama hasn't been removed from office yet.



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11 Jun 2013, 10:24 am

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The thought of Mindless Joe Biden as President fills me with dread. ruveyn

Sometimes, I think that this is the only reason that Mr. Obama hasn't been removed from office yet.


I call it the Dan Quayle strategem.

H.W. Bush was in Iran-Contra up to his eyeballs. If the proof ever came out, Quayle was his trump card to be sure nobody would want him out of office.



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11 Jun 2013, 10:44 am

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Forget about your wishful thinking. Does anyone here really believe Obama is going to be impeached for anything?

-Bill, otherwise known as Kraichgauer


Rest assured that my wishful thinking is far more comprehensive than just an impeachment......


What else might that include?

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11 Jun 2013, 10:55 am

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If the American people are upset over government overreach in security matters, then the place they ought to look for the culprit is in the mirror. Since 9/11, Americans have been so chickenshit over the threat of terrorism that we have not only allowed our rights to be compromised for the sake of safety, we've insisted on it. The Genie is out of the bottle.

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Again, not going to address the actual right or wrong but instead stick to the politics? I've been consistent through multiple administrations on these issues, so has much of the libertarian movement, it's the civil liberties left that seems to only care when a Republican is in office. Sort of like your adoration for W.20, since this version has a D after his name.


For one thing, I had thought it was just common knowledge that the government was keeping track of calls since the Bush years - with congressional consent. I'm not saying it's right,but it's hardly the slap in the face it's being made out to be.
And if W. Bush had championed gay rights, saved the American auto industry from going under, had killed Bin Laden (like he was supposed to), and had fought for healthcare, I would have given him my support. As he didn't, I don't. It's for those reasons why I give Obama such support.

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11 Jun 2013, 1:15 pm

I think the no's are just butthurt that a black guy won.


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11 Jun 2013, 1:24 pm

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I think the no's are just butthurt that a black guy won.
Technically hes only half black he acts whiter than Bill Clinton Id rather have him for president than someone like Kamao Kambon or someone from the ISUPK. Although hes not really any better than George W Bush and hes all buddy buddy withBush behind the curtains. Hes still better than Romney.


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11 Jun 2013, 1:41 pm

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I think the no's are just butthurt that a black guy won.


Wouldn't someone who was sore about him winning want him to be impeached? Or by butthurt do you mean enthusiastic or glad or something? I'm confused because I can't see how butthurt would mean anything but upset.



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11 Jun 2013, 2:05 pm

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I think the no's are just butthurt that a black guy won.


Obama is more orange-brown than black.

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12 Jun 2013, 12:42 am

Kraichgauer wrote:
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Forget about your wishful thinking. Does anyone here really believe Obama is going to be impeached for anything?

-Bill, otherwise known as Kraichgauer


Rest assured that my wishful thinking is far more comprehensive than just an impeachment......


What else might that include?

-Bill, otherwise known as Kraichgauer


Let's just say that it goes a lot further than Obama.
Obama and Biden are only a symptom of a deeper problem and only forcing them out of office won't really fix anything.


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12 Jun 2013, 1:52 am

Raptor wrote:
Kraichgauer wrote:
Raptor wrote:
Kraichgauer wrote:
Forget about your wishful thinking. Does anyone here really believe Obama is going to be impeached for anything?

-Bill, otherwise known as Kraichgauer


Rest assured that my wishful thinking is far more comprehensive than just an impeachment......


What else might that include?

-Bill, otherwise known as Kraichgauer


Let's just say that it goes a lot further than Obama.
Obama and Biden are only a symptom of a deeper problem and only forcing them out of office won't really fix anything.


I thought you were hinting at further punishment directed at the President, following his hypothetical impeachment.

-Bill, otherwise known as Kraichgauer



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12 Jun 2013, 9:38 am

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I thought you were hinting at further punishment directed at the President, following his hypothetical impeachment.

-Bill, otherwise known as Kraichgauer


Impeachment is an indictment. Removal from office follows upon conviction on the charges raised in the Bill of Impeachment. Two Presidents have been impeached. None have been convicted and removed. Once a person is removed from being Head of State his is open to criminal and civil action as is any citizen.

The matter is hypothetical until we have a removal. Don't hold your breath until that happens.

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12 Jun 2013, 10:00 am

Kraichgauer wrote:
Raptor wrote:
Kraichgauer wrote:
Raptor wrote:
Kraichgauer wrote:
Forget about your wishful thinking. Does anyone here really believe Obama is going to be impeached for anything?

-Bill, otherwise known as Kraichgauer


Rest assured that my wishful thinking is far more comprehensive than just an impeachment......


What else might that include?

-Bill, otherwise known as Kraichgauer


Let's just say that it goes a lot further than Obama.
Obama and Biden are only a symptom of a deeper problem and only forcing them out of office won't really fix anything.


I thought you were hinting at further punishment directed at the President, following his hypothetical impeachment.

-Bill, otherwise known as Kraichgauer


No telling what lurks in the evil heart of the Raptor.


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12 Jun 2013, 11:10 am

ruveyn wrote:
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I thought you were hinting at further punishment directed at the President, following his hypothetical impeachment.

-Bill, otherwise known as Kraichgauer


Impeachment is an indictment. Removal from office follows upon conviction on the charges raised in the Bill of Impeachment. Two Presidents have been impeached. None have been convicted and removed. Once a person is removed from being Head of State his is open to criminal and civil action as is any citizen.

The matter is hypothetical until we have a removal. Don't hold your breath until that happens.

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I'm not planning on holding my breath.

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12 Jun 2013, 11:11 am

Raptor wrote:
Kraichgauer wrote:
Raptor wrote:
Kraichgauer wrote:
Raptor wrote:
Kraichgauer wrote:
Forget about your wishful thinking. Does anyone here really believe Obama is going to be impeached for anything?

-Bill, otherwise known as Kraichgauer


Rest assured that my wishful thinking is far more comprehensive than just an impeachment......


What else might that include?

-Bill, otherwise known as Kraichgauer


Let's just say that it goes a lot further than Obama.
Obama and Biden are only a symptom of a deeper problem and only forcing them out of office won't really fix anything.


I thought you were hinting at further punishment directed at the President, following his hypothetical impeachment.

-Bill, otherwise known as Kraichgauer


No telling what lurks in the evil heart of the Raptor.


That's why I asked in the first place. :lol:

-Bill, otherwise known as Kraichgauer