27 Jun 2013, 7:09 pm
Raptor wrote:
Kraichgauer wrote:
I recall that Halloween shooting quite vividly. What made this so egregious was that the victim was gunned down on Halloween, when it's common for people to go door to door in costume. As I find it impossible to believe that the shooter never got trick-or-treaters before, it's pretty obvious that he was motivated by the exchange student's race and color.
Color??? More than half of the Japanese are as white or whiter than me and I'm a WASP.
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And of course there are shootings in the north. I think the point here is, the shooter was motivated by racism. This is not meant to be an indictment of the whole south.
Does the fact that the person shot was Japanese and that it occurred in Louisiana automatically have to make it a race thing?
I swear, you pull the race card more than just about all of people of color that I know.
According to the reports, the people of Baton Rouge overwhelmingly backed the killer in this whole affair. That's quite an indictment of this community.
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27 Jun 2013, 7:11 pm
OddButWhy wrote:
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This is all so ridiculous. The facts are that this person stalked Martin and then gunned him down... These things are beyond any doubt. Then again in the US South it was considered 20 years ago OK to gun down a Japanese exchange student who was looking for a Halloween party and got the address wrong and the yahoos of Baton Rouge showed their support for that!
Other southern "yahoos," as you call them, awarded civil damages to the student's family. If the whole South is irredeemably racist, how could that have happened? Note, too, that the governor of Louisiana is an Indian-American. Was he elected by a bunch of racists?
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My guess is that this has not changed.
That's all it is, a guess.
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Oooh, Japanese people are scary, they might use their super martial arts on me! Mercy! Oooh, that black man is scary, he has super strength... I must gun him down.
Nice mind reading skills there!
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Do these white people have any pride at all, they are portraying themselves as a bunch of victims and whiners who claim to be physically inferior and need to hide behind guns and the law that they own completely.
Yeah, self-defense is always whining.
They're too physically weak to take on these black men in a physical fight, and insufficiently intelligent, committed and disciplined to be the martial arts experts that all Asians supposedly are! And they commit killings with guns and hide behind racist laws that they themselves write. Cowards. They can dish it out but they can't take it. They have to rig the game.
27 Jun 2013, 7:14 pm
27 Jun 2013, 7:29 pm
xenon13 wrote:
OddButWhy wrote:
xenon13 wrote:
This is all so ridiculous. The facts are that this person stalked Martin and then gunned him down... These things are beyond any doubt. Then again in the US South it was considered 20 years ago OK to gun down a Japanese exchange student who was looking for a Halloween party and got the address wrong and the yahoos of Baton Rouge showed their support for that!
Other southern "yahoos," as you call them, awarded civil damages to the student's family. If the whole South is irredeemably racist, how could that have happened? Note, too, that the governor of Louisiana is an Indian-American. Was he elected by a bunch of racists?
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My guess is that this has not changed.
That's all it is, a guess.
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Oooh, Japanese people are scary, they might use their super martial arts on me! Mercy! Oooh, that black man is scary, he has super strength... I must gun him down.
Nice mind reading skills there!
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Do these white people have any pride at all, they are portraying themselves as a bunch of victims and whiners who claim to be physically inferior and need to hide behind guns and the law that they own completely.
Yeah, self-defense is always whining.
They're too physically weak to take on these black men in a physical fight,
Wait, are you actually encouraging white people to fight blacks? Slugfests where wh***y gets beaten to a pulp are OK with you?
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and insufficiently intelligent, committed and disciplined to be the martial arts experts that all Asians supposedly are!
Stereotyping much? Asians are intelligent and martial arts experts, blacks are strong, and Southern whites are stupid weaklings, is that what you're saying?
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And they commit killings with guns and hide behind racist laws that they themselves write. Cowards. They can dish it out but they can't take it. They have to rig the game.
Take what? Getting beaten bloody? Is tolerating that treatment without complaint some kind of honorable thing?
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27 Jun 2013, 7:52 pm
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27 Jun 2013, 9:02 pm
Kraichgauer wrote:
You can't seriously ask me to entertain the notion that the shooter was in danger of his life, can you?
Actually, I wouldn’t expect you to entertain anything that goes against your off the wall racial persecution fixation.
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Unfortunately, racial reasons for fear are considered to be valid, sufficiently so to win acquittals under the law.
Not in the world I live in it isn't.
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Shootings motivated by racism are those with a get out of jail free card as racial fears are considered to be valid fears to justify shootings! Oh, that Japanese kid will kill me with karate, quickly, gun him down! Now! Just tell them that in the court, and they'll acquit.
Why are we talking about a case from 20 years ago?
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Another perversity is the way the laws over there encourage people to kill.
Over there?
And how do they encourage it?
This should be good.
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They say that if you fire warning shots, that proves that you are insufficiently in fear to not be imprisoned for aggravated assault with a weapon!
Warning shots? Only idiots recommend warning shots. This proves you have no idea what you're talking about.
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They actually tell people, they advise people, that if the gun comes into play, shoot to kill. Otherwise, it's prison. Killing is the way to avoid the iron hotel. Absolute perversity!
No, they say don’t pull a gun unless there’s no alternative then you shoot to neutralize. And no, neutralize isn't a “safe” term for kill, it means shoot until the attacker is no longer a threat. If they die then oh well.
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According to the reports, the people of Baton Rouge overwhelmingly backed the killer in this whole affair. That's quite an indictment of this community.
Not that it’s relevant, but do you have link to this case that you and your buddy Kraichgauer are so upset over?
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They're too physically weak to take on these black men in a physical fight,
Really, and no black man has ever used a firearm against an un-armed white person?
How many cases do you want me to find that disagree with you?
We’re all too physically weak, eh?
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and insufficiently intelligent, committed and disciplined to be the martial arts experts that all Asians supposedly are!
I took Aikido when I was a kid. They told us in no uncertain terms that no part of our bodies are bulletproof.
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And they commit killings with guns and hide behind racist laws that they themselves write
And what laws are these? This should be good.
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Cowards. They can dish it out but they can't take it. They have to rig the game.
Paranoia.
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The question should be, did Zimmerman with planned purpose gun Trayvon Martin to death... and if it's yes, then it's guilty, end of discussion.
No one will ever know for sure.
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Particularly as it has been established that Zimmerman is the one who initiated contact with Martin. He initiated contact, he then killed Martin,
Like there could be no other variables.
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it's cut and dried, get the damned gurney with the chemicals ready NOW!
Yeah! Why wait for those boring legal proceedings when the media has already handed in a verdict last year?
This calls for a double row of eye rollers.
27 Jun 2013, 9:58 pm
chris5000 wrote:
... the psychical evidance is on zimmermans side
What psychical evidence? From which psychic?
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