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26 Mar 2018, 5:33 pm

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I still can't believe how low this thread has sunk.

People seriously believe that suicide is a better solution to poverty than ending poverty.

Perhaps, at some point in the future, minorities will be encouraged to euthanize themselves because euthanasia is easier than ending racism.

It could happen.

This thread has officially killed my soul.


At what point has anyone offered a solution to end poverty? Welfare does not end poverty it creates dependency it encourages people to have children they cannot look after.



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26 Mar 2018, 5:42 pm

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At what point has anyone offered a solution to end poverty? Welfare does not end poverty it creates dependency it encourages people to have children they cannot look after.



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26 Mar 2018, 5:55 pm

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Socialism is taking away someone else's rights. Denying people the right to buy lethal drugs to kill themselves takes away their right. No one chooses to be born forcing people to live when they don't want is cruel.


I just have to draw attention to this post and how messed-up it is.

For centuries, philosophers from Socrates to Locke to Marx have pondered ways to improve the world, create more responsible governments, and alleviate suffering. What is the ultimate conclusion of all of that? "Suicide is more ethical than forcing the authorities to help people."

Perhaps the medieval peasants should have just killed themselves. Democracy? Peasant revolts? Human rights? Who cares? All of those things are for suckers! They should have just killed themselves. Maybe we should honor the Africans who jumped off of slave ships instead of becoming slaves.

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26 Mar 2018, 6:01 pm

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Daniel89 wrote:
Socialism is taking away someone else's rights. Denying people the right to buy lethal drugs to kill themselves takes away their right. No one chooses to be born forcing people to live when they don't want is cruel.


I just have to draw attention to this post and how messed-up it is.

For centuries, philosophers from Socrates to Locke to Marx have pondered ways to improve the world, create more responsible governments, and alleviate suffering. What is the ultimate conclusion of all of that? "Suicide is more ethical than forcing the authorities to help people."

Perhaps the medieval peasants should have just killed themselves. Democracy? Peasant revolts? Human rights? Who cares? All of those things are for suckers! They should have just killed themselves. Maybe we should honor the Africans who jumped off of slave ships instead of becoming slaves.

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The peasants were poor because of the government, the king and aristocrats seized their land and forced them to pay taxes.

What do Human rights have to do with being able to steal money?

I absolutely do respect those African slaves who drowned themselves they saved their children from becoming slaves.

What exactly does "forcing the authorities" mean? You really mean stealing money from one group to give it to another.

When you take money from productive people and give it to unproductive people eventually unproductive people will become the majority and the whole system will collapse.



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27 Mar 2018, 6:18 pm

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Investment income is not taxed at a lower rate in the US its taxed twice, you pay a high corporation tax and then a tax on the dividend income. Many countries have some form of dividend imputation in which the corporation taxes paid can be attributed to the taxpayer.


Just about any time money changes hands, the government gets some of it. This is true of ordinary income and investment income. Are you proposing that someone who earns $50,000 in wages is taxed at the same or a lower rate than someone who earns $50,000 in investments on investments held by an individual or trust for two years?



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27 Mar 2018, 6:52 pm

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Investment income is not taxed at a lower rate in the US its taxed twice, you pay a high corporation tax and then a tax on the dividend income. Many countries have some form of dividend imputation in which the corporation taxes paid can be attributed to the taxpayer.


Just about any time money changes hands, the government gets some of it. This is true of ordinary income and investment income. Are you proposing that someone who earns $50,000 in wages is taxed at the same or a lower rate than someone who earns $50,000 in investments on investments held by an individual or trust for two years?


I don't really understand the question. Here in the UK corporation tax is 19% whilst top income tax is 45% plus 2% for national insurance the government however taxes dividends at a lower rate to take into account the 19% already paid. I believe quite a few countries do something like this.