Is horseshoe theory an overrated concept?

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Are you talking about hate speech?

What property? Property can be authoritarian.

Should I have the freedom to own slaves?

Since when were price controls a core belief of the radical left?

-And wage controls? Many people in the radical left don't want wage systems.

Google "Holocene Climatic Optimum" and you can find that the temperature then was around 2 C warmer than today.

You might also find out that the Sahara Desert was green and the Gobi Desert was a forest. Even northern Mexico was notably wetter than today.



There is plenty of non-scientific malarkey about global warming leading to food shortages. There is nothing to back up that malarkey except panic.

If farmers refuse to plant anything different when it is warmer than what they plant now, then there will be problems. But the idea that farmers will do that is ridiculous. It isn't at all common for farmers to change their crops depending on conditions and what is available. If you want to see what farmers may be growing 100 years from now, just look at what they are growing closer to the equator.

It is quite possible that we could have two growing seasons for wheat. If you want that now, you have to go to southern Mexico.

You should know that the global warming will not be uniform around the world. It will be at its greatest towards the poles and the least near the equator. If global warming lets us grow commercial food crops more than a hundred miles or so north of the US-Canadian border, that is a big plus.

Did you know that people with greenhouses often pump CO2 levels in their greenhouses to help plants grow better?

With warmer temperatures, more rain, and more CO2, the Earth will be far more productive than today.

Want to see what happens when it cools off even just a little? Look at the period known as the "Little Ice Age". In the Desert Southwest, the Anasazi people had a thriving civilization until the cooling temperatures of the early stages of the Little Ice Age dried up their climate and they had to move elsewhere.

Prior to the Little Ice Age, life in England was quite pleasant. With the cooling, life got much tougher. It's worth noting that parts of England are finally, after something like 1,000 years, able to support vineyards again.

And don't forget GMOs. With genetic engineering, it is very likely that we can improve our crops today to grow in warmer temperatures. On the other hand, it is questionable how much we do with genetic engineering to feed the people of the world when the next period of glaciation is upon us.

Political correctness often targets people making simple observations...



Yep...CO2 is plant food...

Hate speech is free speech. Hate is a legitimate human emotion the idea that the government can legislate your emotions or how you express yourself is disgusting and terrifying.

Who in the western world is supporting slavery?

Many on the left believe in limits to profits, limits to price of goods and rent controls.

Surely you know ice ages aren't everything or nothing. There are waves within waves within waves. We're in the trough between two cold waves on the crest of a larger, slower cold wave.

Is this debate still about whether or not horseshoe theory is true or is it now about who's correct out of the right and the left?

Hot dogs are people food, but the average person can't eat a truckload of hot dogs in two minutes.

The plants on earth can only consume so much CO2 at once. If there is an overdose of CO2 in the atmosphere, plants won't be able to consume the excess.

Addionally, large trees consume more CO2 than crops. This is why deforestation is such a big deal.

Why not?

If there is a minimum wage, why can't there be a maximum wage?

Because its oppression, its the government taking away someones right to earn what they can earn in the market place.

What moral right do you have to limit someones income?

It wouldn't even work though they would just leave the country or work/produce less.

I think the Horseshoe can be summed up like this.

The Right wants to control society and the left wants to control the economy.

You cannot control society without controlling the economy.

You cannot control the economy without controlling society.

Boo hoo. Those poor CEOs.





Why do CEOs have the right to rig elections using their money? Something has to be done to stop this.



That's why leftism is a globalist movement. I must be a global effort or else it won't work.

They don't have a right to rig elections but when people like you want to take away their human rights I can see why they attempt to.

How do you figure that?

Especially the "larger, slower cold wave"?

Calling it a "wave" implies that it is cyclical. In reality, the wider you look, the less cyclical it becomes.

This is a strawman.

Hate speech is not hatred in of itself. Hate speech is speech the targets marginalized groups. People who already face great systemic violence. Hate speech is by its own nature authoritarian, and one does not need to support state sanctions, to oppose hate speech.

Why bring up slavery? I want to highlight the importance of talking about specific property rights.

Would you like to talk about forms of property the radical left opposes?

These are all potential reformist policies, not core left beliefs.

Hate speech laws are authoritarian, people saying means things is not.

I didn't bring up slavery you did, you asked if people are property. No one in the western world is arguing for slavery.

The far left opposes the right to own your own business the right and the right to set your own prices.

Opposing hate speech =/= supporting state sanctions


Did you bother to read what I had to say?

Yes, I did bring up slavery. I was explaining why I did.