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20 May 2015, 1:06 pm

If you are not calling for politicians and feds to be strung up from lampposts, you are complicit in this.


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20 May 2015, 2:11 pm

I do not believe he should be executed. He is a victim of indoctrination which led to an extreme action. I would say if he deserves harsh punishment, it should be the hell of being forced to play E.T. for the Atari 2600. He will then know real pain.

But seriously, I would rather have him sit in jail for 20 years and then let him out under the circumstance that he is under supervision for the rest of his life or exile him to an island like Samoa without the privelege to leave.



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20 May 2015, 5:14 pm

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Well ideally I'd like to see the human species driven to extinction, which would necessarily imply the cessation of that cycle.


I notice those expressing statements such as this never want to be the first ones...fine for others, not for themselves.



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20 May 2015, 6:08 pm

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Tsarnaev was a goddamn hero, and I'm looking forward to the retributory attacks that will inevitably follow from his execution. And I'm not even a muslim. You don't have to be one, to think that it is heroic to bring the wars and atrocities directly to the soft-living American taxpayer scum who are so are happy to visit the same upon others.
Your post is mean, inciteful, inflammatory, and obviously trollish.

I hope you get banned.



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21 May 2015, 5:35 am

RhodyStruggle wrote:
Tsarnaev was a goddamn hero, and I'm looking forward to the retributory attacks that will inevitably follow from his execution. And I'm not even a muslim. You don't have to be one, to think that it is heroic to bring the wars and atrocities directly to the soft-living American taxpayer scum who are so are happy to visit the same upon others.


Sorry, I don't see it. He just killed a bunch of random marathon spectators. Those were innocent people, how is that heroic?

That being said...

No, he doesn't deserve to be executed. No one does, and it's one of America's greatest embarrassments that they still continue this barbaric practice. The terrorists who make up America's government are a bunch of hypocrites.



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21 May 2015, 6:15 am

RhodyStruggle wrote:
Tsarnaev was a goddamn hero, and I'm looking forward to the retributory attacks that will inevitably follow from his execution. And I'm not even a muslim. You don't have to be one, to think that it is heroic to bring the wars and atrocities directly to the soft-living American taxpayer scum who are so are happy to visit the same upon others.


Promoting violence is against the rules.



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21 May 2015, 6:50 am

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I don't understand the death penalty. If I committed a crime I would much rather just die than spend the rest of my life in prison. Why would anyone prefer to live the rest of their life in prison? Unless they have the false hope that maybe one day they will be released.


The point is that what the prisoner wants or doesn't wants shouldn't really be the relevant factor here. It's about setting a standard of punishment for certain crimes and a public not having to pay for a lifetime of shelter, nutrition, and health care for the criminal element in their society. You could easily make an argument about overpopulation as well - If the planet is at 7 billion and the ideal could be around 2 or so billion, it may be downright irresponsible not to set a standard for capital crimes and enforce it. It isn't so much about finding what the prisoner wants least or fears most and then carrying it out like some kind of mission. The system of penalties exist as an example for the broader society. If a particular convicted individual upon whom the death sentence is pronounced relishes the concept of a sterile prison death, then let them relish it.



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21 May 2015, 8:16 am

... rethinking this ...

Maybe the death penalty is too good for the Dzokahr the Terrorist. Maybe his crimes are more deserving of spending the rest of his life warehoused in the Supermax prison, where he spends 23 hours of each day in a concrete box.

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ALEXANDRIA, Va. — Halfway through the trial, prison expert James E. Aiken looked straight at jurors and told them what Zacarias Moussaoui could expect if they sent him away for the rest of his life.

"I have seen them rot," he said. "They rot."

[...]

Already there is a veritable "bombers' row" -- Ramzi Ahmed Yousef, mastermind of the 1993 World Trade Center blast; Unabomber Theodore Kaczynski; Terry L. Nichols, an accomplice in the Oklahoma City bombing; Richard Reid, the so-called shoe bomber who Moussaoui testified was to join him in another Al Qaeda hijacking; and Eric Rudolph, who bombed abortion clinics and the Atlanta Olympics.

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All, like Moussaoui, are serving life without parole -- spending their days in prison wings that are partly underground. They exist alone in soundproof cells as small as 7 feet by 12 feet, with a concrete-poured desk, bed and stool, a small shower and sink, and a TV that offers religious and anger-management programs.

They are locked down 23 hours a day.

Larry Homenick, a former U.S. marshal who has taken prisoners to Supermax, said that there was a small triangular recreation area, known as "the dog run," where solitary Supermax prisoners could occasionally get a glimpse of sky.

He said it was chilling to walk down the cellblocks and glance through the plexiglass "sally port" chambers into the cells and see the faces inside.

Life there is harsh. Food is delivered through a slit in the cell door. Prisoners don't leave their cells to see a lawyer, a doctor or a prison official; those visitors must go to the cell.

But prisoners can earn extra privileges, like a wider variety of television offerings, more exercise time and visitation rights, based on their behavior.

There are 1,400 remote-controlled steel doors. Motion detectors and hidden cameras monitor every move. The prison walls and razor-wired grounds are patrolled by laser beams and dogs.

[...]
(Source: "The Slow Rot at Supermax")

I hope Dzokahr the Terrorist gets a life sentence without parole on appeal, and I hope his sentence is carried out at the Supermax facility.

After all, we don't want to impose something as barbaric as a death sentence on a man who murdered, mutilated, and maimed others for the fun of it now, do we?

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21 May 2015, 12:02 pm

Land of the free, and the home of the electric chair.

I think it's ironic that a country whose citizens spend so much energy braying about "freedom" and "liberty" has one of the world's largest per-capita prison populations.



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21 May 2015, 12:20 pm

Barchan wrote:
Land of the free, and the home of the electric chair. I think it's ironic that a country whose citizens spend so much energy braying about "freedom" and "liberty" has one of the world's largest per-capita prison populations.
I think that it's ironic that people from other countries are horrified by America's legal system when their own governments are infested with pedophiles.

"Massive online pedophile ring busted by cops"

"A big political cover-up of pedophile-ring in U.K. Parliament"

"The paedophile ring at the heart of the British Establishment"

So, which is worse: The justifiable execution of one child-butchering terrorist in the USA, or the institutionalized rape of thousands of children by government officials who have so far eluded prosecution in the UK?



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21 May 2015, 1:51 pm

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I think that it's ironic that people from other countries are horrified by America's legal system when their own governments are infested with pedophiles.

"Massive online pedophile ring busted by cops"

"A big political cover-up of pedophile-ring in U.K. Parliament"

"The paedophile ring at the heart of the British Establishment"

So, which is worse: The justifiable execution of one child-butchering terrorist in the USA, or the institutionalized rape of thousands of children by government officials who have so far eluded prosecution in the UK?


I'm not British though? I don't know why you're linking to this story in reference to my post... :?